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Low-carb 'keto' diet ('Atkins-style') may modestly improve cognition in older adults
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-06-low-carb-keto-diet-atkins-style-modestly.html ^ | June 27, 2019 | Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine

Posted on 06/30/2019 5:32:25 PM PDT by ConservativeMind

In a pilot study of 14 older adults with mild cognitive problems suggestive of early Alzheimer's disease, Johns Hopkins Medicine researchers report that a high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet may improve brain function and memory.

"Our early findings suggest that perhaps we don't need to cut carbs as strictly as we initially tried. We may eventually see the same beneficial effects by adding a ketone supplement that would make the diet easier to follow," says Jason Brandt, Ph.D., professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences and neurology at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. "It's something that 400-plus experimental drugs haven't been able to do in clinical trials."

Brandt explains that, typically, the brain uses the sugar glucose—a product of carbohydrate breakdown—as a primary fuel. However, research has shown that in the early stage of Alzheimer's disease the brain isn't able to efficiently use glucose as an energy source. Some experts, he says, even refer to Alzheimer's as "type 3 diabetes."

Using brain scans that show energy use, researchers have also found that ketones—chemicals formed during the breakdown of dietary fat—can be used as an alternative energy source in the brains of healthy people and those with mild cognitive impairment. For example, when a person is on a ketogenic diet, consisting of lots of fat and very few sugars and starches, the brain and body use ketones as an energy source instead of carbs.

When comparing the results of tests of delayed recall—the ability to recollect something they were told or shown a few minutes earlier—those who stuck to the modified Atkins diet improved by a couple of points on average (about 15% of the total score), whereas those who didn't follow the diet on average dropped a couple of points.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: alzheimers; atkins; cognition; dietandcuisine; glucose; highfat; jasonbrandt; johnshopkins; ketodiet; ketogenic; ketones; lowcarb
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To: crosdaddy
I obviously don’t know you, or the shape that you are currently in, but if you are heavily Insulin resistant, as I was a good number of years ago, most of what you eat is going to get stored as fat, your body will take what glucose it needs, mostly for the brain, and then store the rest as fat. So most of that meals carbs will be stored as fat, and any fat that was in that meal will also be stored as fat, not good.

Just about everybody is insulin resistant near as I can tell from reading, a glance at the public "at large"., unless they have taken steps to correct it. That's exactly what I'm trying to do. Burn through the sugars in the bod and get to the fat.

I'm fasting at least 16 hours a day, full 24 hour fast about 2 days out of the week. I'm eating maybe 2000 to 2,500 calories daily, tops, when I eat. I'm not working out, but normal daily routine, mowing the lawn etc.

I'm totally prepared to be wrong, but I don't see how any of that meal gets turned into fat. Should be into this ketosis business part of everyday and at the same time the total calories are restricted

Burning more than I take in = losing weight. See where I'm going with that?

It's pretty simple the way I look at it, though that doesn't mean I'm not completely wrong on this. And even if I'm correct in the arithmetic that doesn't mean it's easy, that's a different issue.
101 posted on 07/01/2019 4:30:01 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: logi_cal869

OK … so “keto” may be bad for me.

But I also know that “not keto” is even worse.


102 posted on 07/01/2019 5:52:40 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Freedom4US

Yea, I knew where you were going with it, just want you to think about what the actual different sources of Kcals do in your body, especially for people who do have bad insulin resistance, those different sources of Kcals can have a profound effect on their body comp, so in my mind, it’s a little more than just in and out.


103 posted on 07/01/2019 7:11:50 PM PDT by crosdaddy
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To: crosdaddy
I appreciate your advice, I really do.

But I'm trying to get a handle on this better. Say for the purposes of argument I were to eat nothing but Pizza, Soda, and Ice Cream every day, I would still lose weight, provided I limited the calories to less than I expend.

Supposedly, the "average well nourished adult" has about 440 grams of carbohydrate stored in their body - muscles, liver, bloodstream. This equals about 1760 calories @ 4 calories per gram. So after fasting for about a day, that's completely used up. Then the body has to turn to fat stores. That's the only way to lose weight, is to bring the carb intake down. Partial fasting just speeds things up, and exercise.

I want this to be as un-complicated as possible. It's gonna be uncomfortable no matter what, but if I can eat one fairly large meal a day, or maybe two smaller meals in a given window, and eat whatever I want yer still regularly lose weight every week, week after week, this seems to be the way to go for me. By partial fasting 16 to 24 hours every day, this should bring insulin sensitivity where it needs to be.

What's strange to think about, people get "hungry" even when they are carrying around enough food, in the form of fat, to survive for about a year without eating any food at all. That's the current record for fasting, 382 days. You can bet that fella needed to buy new clothes!
104 posted on 07/01/2019 8:02:13 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Freedom4US

That fellow got down to like 188lbs, and 5 years later, had only put 20lbs back on. I don’t remember his starting weight, but he was pretty big.more importantly, he didn’t need any excess skin/tissue removal.
I’ll occasionally do a three day water fast, I wouldn’t even contemplate one if I was still a heavy carb consumer, that would be painful. At the time I started this I was what the Dr referred to as, pre-diabetic, metabolic syndrome, etc. wanted to get me on all the usual pills, I said no, I’ll do it my way, and I did. So, still to this very day I’m not nor have I been on any meds at all. All my numbers are great on my blood panel, had EKG and stress test this year, all really good.no aches, and I put my body through a lot of shit when I was younger, joints are good etc.
All I can say is it works for me, 13 years now, and I wouldn’t change a thing. All my meals are delicious and nutritious.


105 posted on 07/01/2019 9:07:11 PM PDT by crosdaddy
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To: logi_cal869

Keto is tremendously dangerous. I’ve followed a ketogenic way of eating (low carb, adequate protein) for over 5 years now. In that time, my A1C dropped from >8 to as low 4.4. I shed 70 pounds of body fat while preserving lean body mass. I also died a few years ago because it it so dangerous and not sustainable.


106 posted on 07/01/2019 9:18:55 PM PDT by bluetick
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To: logi_cal869

Looking through your posts, you seem to think Keto is high-protein, when in fact it’s not at all, 70% of calories should come from healthy Fats, too much protein will take you out of Ketosis. You can eat plenty of veggies on Keto: Spinach, Broccoli, Cauliflower, Brussels Sprouts, and not go out of Ketosis.


107 posted on 07/01/2019 9:42:39 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: bluetick

Tic-toc...


108 posted on 07/01/2019 10:05:25 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: bluetick

And, btw, all you did was eliminate the crap which was causing all of your problems, trading an immediate health problem for a later one due to poor choices.

Fair warning. You still have time. Denial is hardly a security blanket when it’s too late. If you’re truly lucky, you’re an outlier.

https://www.sciencealert.com/study-on-half-a-million-people-has-bad-news-for-keto-diet


109 posted on 07/01/2019 10:12:10 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: dfwgator

“Looking through your posts, you seem to think Keto is high-protein”


Incorrect. FYI:

https://www.sciencealert.com/study-on-half-a-million-people-has-bad-news-for-keto-diet


110 posted on 07/01/2019 10:12:28 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: dfwgator

“Looking through your posts, you seem to think Keto is high-protein”


Incorrect. FYI:

https://www.sciencealert.com/study-on-half-a-million-people-has-bad-news-for-keto-diet


111 posted on 07/01/2019 10:18:30 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

That’s funny. I don’t have time to find the flaws in the study discussed in the Business Insider link you shared (I bet Big Cereal is behind it somehow). What I do know is that there are no essential carbohydrates. You are correct in that I eliminated the crap I was eating in my formerly “clean” carbohydrate laden diet; crap such as potatoes, grains, fruits. . . .


112 posted on 07/02/2019 4:37:12 AM PDT by bluetick
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To: logi_cal869

This link is to a study published in a medical journal:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2817%2932252-3/fulltext

The interpretation presented in the study is interesting:

“High carbohydrate intake was associated with higher risk of total mortality, whereas total fat and individual types of fat were related to lower total mortality. Total fat and types of fat were not associated with cardiovascular disease, myocardial infarction, or cardiovascular disease mortality, whereas saturated fat had an inverse association with stroke. Global dietary guidelines should be reconsidered in light of these findings.”


113 posted on 07/02/2019 5:08:29 AM PDT by bluetick
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114 posted on 07/02/2019 5:37:59 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: logi_cal869

But you have to admit a lot of people think they are doing Keto, when they really are not.

I mean I suppose eating Pork Rinds is something that is considered to be “Keto Friendly”, but personally I wouldn’t be caught dead with the things.

You still have to eat quality food on a Keto diet to get the full benefits. There is a right way, and a wrong way to do Keto.


115 posted on 07/02/2019 6:12:11 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

What most people don’t realize is that you may “think” you’re doing keto but doctors in a controlled hospital setting have difficulty maintaining ketosis for their epileptic patients.

The dangers of an emotionally-reinforcing ‘diet’ are like the movements of a glacier (the damage can take years; everyone is different), denial being a warm blanket which fails everyone in the end.


116 posted on 07/02/2019 6:30:33 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

I would question if Keto is a good idea for younger people. My hunch is probably not. Limit carbs, sure, but I wouldn’t think cutting out most fruits and vegetables is necessary when you are younger.

But I do believe that as we get older, we just don’t need nearly as many carbs, as we get more sedentary. and our metabolism slows down.

I think your concerns about Keto over the long-term may be valid, but I believe that’s if you start doing Keto too early in life, but if you start in your late 40s or later, I just don’t see all that much harm in it.

That’s a reason I don’t think it’s a good idea to impose Keto on soldiers, as talked about in the other thread.


117 posted on 07/02/2019 6:37:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: bluetick

A study which doesn’t focus exclusively upon one country - i.e. U.S. - is absolutely worthless itself and just another dataset which conveniently-elevates the stature of a ‘diet’ behind a multi-billion dollar industry.

You should know better. Use that tool in front of you and read the contraindicatory research; you might learn something.


118 posted on 07/02/2019 6:41:51 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Freedom4US

Really want to kill the sweet tooth?

Monkfruit Sugar. Nearly indistinguishable from real sugar - zero carbs.

You can eat strawberries, blueberries, raspberries. Sprinkle cut strawberries with monkfruit sugar - buckle your knees.

Yes - you can do carrots and tomatoes. Rao’s marinara sauce is nearly carb free.

Nearly everything in your diet has a low-carb analog. I make my own milk chocolate bars. Easy, quick, delicious.

Pork rinds and movies instead of popcorn and movies. Pork rinds and spinach dip - delicious.

That craving. That is what must die. This is the entire reason why the Keto diet works.


119 posted on 07/02/2019 6:43:11 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

Monk Fruit plus 100% Cacao Chocolate - That will take care of your chocolate cravings.


120 posted on 07/02/2019 6:45:03 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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