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New U.S. Combat Ship (USS Billings) Collides with Canadian Freighter
Freight Waves ^ | 6/24/2019 | Nate Tabak

Posted on 06/26/2019 7:45:54 AM PDT by Starboard

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To: Little Ray

If there was a a harbor pilot on board and there were tug boats pushing the ship then the CO should be ok.


21 posted on 06/26/2019 8:07:12 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: xrmusn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-johnson-ab0222155

Looks like this is the commander.


22 posted on 06/26/2019 8:07:45 AM PDT by gtk
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To: Starboard
Perhaps this book should be required reading for all US Navy captains.


23 posted on 06/26/2019 8:09:35 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Starboard
sustained damage after hitting another vessel in Montreal, Canada yesterday. The warship had been on its way to future homeport in Mayport, Florida

I'm confused. On it's way from where? Montreal doesn't seem to me to be in between a lot of places and Mayport, Florida, maritimely speaking.

ML/NJ

24 posted on 06/26/2019 8:11:18 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Starboard

Link to article showing Captain and CO.

https://billingsgazette.com/news/local/uss-billings-crew-members-pay-visit-to-ship-s-namesake/article_f443d1f7-ff57-5ff3-9dbc-f83c9f2ee06c.html


25 posted on 06/26/2019 8:13:49 AM PDT by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind blows too much)
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To: RinaseaofDs

The other ship was MOORED.

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Any ship which is secured by ropes to a permanent fixture is ‘moored’ to that fixture, typically to a concreted block on the seabed (i.e., a mooring).

I probably should have used the term ‘docked’ which is pretty clear to everyone.


26 posted on 06/26/2019 8:13:52 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: taxcontrol

Umm, perhaps a revisit of the training program is in order?


Yup. The Atlantic just published an interesting article about how the Navy is staffing these ships with people who can perform multiple jobs vs. those with dedicated expertise. As you can imagine, the Atlantic was mostly touting this as a good thing (especially because it reduces manpower on this ships), but this is the inevitable result.


27 posted on 06/26/2019 8:15:01 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: taxcontrol

It was under tug... not sure what the captain is supposed to do but get a better harbor pilot next time?


28 posted on 06/26/2019 8:15:09 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: ml/nj

Built in Wisconsin, going to Florida via the St. Lawrence seaway.


29 posted on 06/26/2019 8:15:41 AM PDT by gtk
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To: Starboard
The Billings was getting underway with the assistance of tugs.

Could be the tugs were at fault.

30 posted on 06/26/2019 8:17:18 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: rbg81
the Navy is staffing these ships with people who can perform multiple jobs

Apparently, steering / navigating and paying attention are not among those jobs...

31 posted on 06/26/2019 8:18:40 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: Starboard

If the ship was being controlled by a harbor pilot and there were tug boats involved then the situation is more complicated.


32 posted on 06/26/2019 8:19:12 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rbg81
the Navy is staffing these ships with people who can perform multiple jobs

When was that not the case. "The Navy: It's not just a job, it's five jobs."

33 posted on 06/26/2019 8:20:39 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ml/nj

“I’m confused. On it’s way from where? Montreal doesn’t seem to me to be in between a lot of places and Mayport, Florida, maritimely speaking.”

Freedom class LCSs are built in Marionette, Wisconsin.


34 posted on 06/26/2019 8:22:40 AM PDT by suthener
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To: Haiku Guy
This class of ships is highly maneuverable. The engines are capable of rotating 360 degrees

Sounds like they might have azipod propulsion instead of straight shaft and propeller propulsion.

Could be another example of today's solution is tomorrow's problem. - Tom

35 posted on 06/26/2019 8:23:12 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: BenLurkin
It’s not her fault. The freighter cut her off.

Yeah. Right. Like the tree that jumped out in front my my daughter's car...

36 posted on 06/26/2019 8:25:57 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (A law means nothing if it isnÂ’t followed.)
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To: Starboard
Oy vey


37 posted on 06/26/2019 8:27:00 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Starboard

Equivalent of hitting a parked car.

Somebody needs to be cashiered.


38 posted on 06/26/2019 8:29:22 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: central_va

The only time a CO is relieved of the responsibility for the safe navigation of his ship is when the ship is under Panama Canal pilotage.

At any other time, pilot or no pilot, the Captain is responsible for the safe navigation of the ship. The recommendations of the pilot and the Captains actions based on those recommendations will figure prominently into the investigation of the incident. The CO is not out of the woods yet.


39 posted on 06/26/2019 8:29:43 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: taxcontrol

Umm, perhaps a revisit of the training program is in order?


I’m positive that all on board received their gender diversity sensitivity training.


40 posted on 06/26/2019 8:32:26 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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