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Rethinking hero status: Was Martin Luther King Jr. a monster?
American Thinker ^ | 06/17/2019 | John Glyn

Posted on 06/17/2019 8:07:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

César Chávez once declared, “History will judge societies and governments -- and their institutions -- not by how big they are or how well they serve the rich and the powerful, but by how effectively they respond to the needs of the poor and the helpless.”

This quote got me thinking. How will history judge Martin Luther King Jr.?

The Troubling Legacy of Martin Luther King, a recent essay published by widely respected historian David Garrow in Standpoint, a widely respected British magazine, sparked fierce debate among historians. Within the press, however, Garrow’s essay was met with a reaction somewhere between ambivalence and outright refutation.

Remember, this is David Garrow, author of King’s Pulitzer Prize-winning biography. This is an author of real merit.


According to Garrow, King engaged in orgies, solicited prostitutes, and "looked on and laughed" as a rape took place before his very eyes.

Again, this report comes from a senior advisor to Eyes on the Prize, an award-winning series documenting the Civil Rights movement.  Garrow is very much a liberal's liberal. He’s certainly no friend of the right, and he’s certainly no enemy of King's. In fact, Garrow is, in many ways, a former idolator.           

The allegations against Dr. King are as shocking as they are unfathomable. How could this man, an activist and orator like no other, act in such a monstrous manner? In King’s famous “I have a dream” speech, the self-professed pacifist eloquently expressed the hope that someday his children would be able to live in a nation “where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” Well, Dr. King, your wish has been granted,

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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To: BillyBoy

I was waiting for the first nitwit to post that crap that MLK Jr. was a Republican in the thread. They should be roasted to charcoal.


21 posted on 06/17/2019 8:45:45 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not sure what purpose all this serves. It’s a bunch of he said she said. After all, people lie about what they had for breakfast.


22 posted on 06/17/2019 8:46:19 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

wo0uld be interesting to see the left’s reaction if some folks, preferably black, tore down his statues like folks tear down civil war statues


23 posted on 06/17/2019 8:47:24 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I think most of the "MLK Jr. was a Republican" crowd are hiding during this latest news, like the "Justin Amash is a true conservative and anyone who opposes him is GOPE" crowd is.
24 posted on 06/17/2019 8:48:16 AM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact)
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To: wattsgnu

> I had never heard of that allegation and to be revealed only now 50 years or so later, seems very odd. Wouldn’t the victim have spoken out at some point? <

Here’s something else that is odd. Evidently FBI agents were in another room recording the “rape”. Yet none of them intervened. As peace officers, that was their duty.

Perhaps they were given orders to just eavesdrop, and do nothing more. If so, that doesn’t say much about them. Heck, why not at least anonymously call the local police or hotel security?


25 posted on 06/17/2019 8:52:22 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anything FBI says, you have to take with a grain of salt.

I remember a documentary, recounting the shooter’s repeated trips to Canada, and his contacts with apparent RCMP, which echoes the Five Eyes operations of our current day.


26 posted on 06/17/2019 8:53:30 AM PDT by marron
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To: BillyBoy

There’s a nitwit who keeps repeating the same talking point about how Nixon met with MLK Jr. and had his photo taken with him (and hence they supported each other). Yet who did MLK Jr. endorse in ‘60 and would not have endorsed in ‘68 ? There’s a Black FReeper here who had his photo taken with Lanny Davis, so does that mean Lanny endorses him ? Such stupid nonsense.


27 posted on 06/17/2019 8:55:06 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where is the net children!

He was a Republican!


28 posted on 06/17/2019 8:57:21 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Seruzawa

> I’m not sure what purpose all this serves. <

As I see it, their are two groups at work here.

1. The history group. Tell it like it is, and let the chips fall where they may. Nothing wrong with that.

2. The political group. Use the “facts” as an excuse to destroy someone you don’t admire.

Ulysses S Grant once owned a slave. Tear him down!
Robert E. Lee owned many slaves. Tear him down!
Martin Luther King abused women. Tear him down!

Somehow I suspect that group #2 is much larger than group #1.


29 posted on 06/17/2019 9:10:06 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Certainly parts, key parts, of his doctoral dissertation were plagiarized from very well known writings of Tillich or Karl Barth, I forget which, on the function of prayer.
30 posted on 06/17/2019 9:12:23 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

I stopped reading after “shocking/unfathomable”.


31 posted on 06/17/2019 9:20:58 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: wattsgnu

I am an avid reader and read about this decades ago. He was a “do as I say, not as I do” man. I never put him on a pedestal like some did and do. No one is perfect.


32 posted on 06/17/2019 9:27:08 AM PDT by MamaB (Heb :13:2)
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To: Truthoverpower
He was a Republican Democrat!

Fixed it for you.

33 posted on 06/17/2019 9:32:13 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey, lets keep it fair. I’m “uncomfortable” seeing that name on street signs and statues ... time to take them all down and erase this history too. (/sarc ... or maybe not?)


34 posted on 06/17/2019 9:36:39 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Where are the #MeToo’s to complain? Why are they silent?

Will the Leftists march to remove this confederate man’s statue from the public square in Charlotteville?

Why hasn’t Scott Adams talked about this issue in his daily podcasts?

Many questions need to be answered.


35 posted on 06/17/2019 9:44:12 AM PDT by poconopundit
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To: wattsgnu

According to the historian who’s written a definitive hagiographic biography of MLK, the FBI has audio recordings of the incident, with MLK laughing and cheering the rapist on. Obviously, I haven’t heard them, but this guy has a lot of credibility and we know there is tons of sealed information going to come out. We’ll know one way or the other one day.


36 posted on 06/17/2019 10:01:40 AM PDT by dead (Our next president is going to be sooooo boring.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
MLK now appears personally in a really sinister light with these revelations. I am not going to rehash what anyone can read a AT. The point is ‘the content of his character’. MLK is a national icon who would seem to have, at the least, been a man haunted with some major inner demons. Does he represent along with Bill Clinton a new understanding of national heroes? Considering the level of moral and ethical confusion that our times reflect perhaps so.

What is interesting is as King's star has risen politicians and professional ethnic agitators have been acting as the foot soldiers in a long Gramscian campaign to delegitimize, stigmatize and eventually erase much of what has been our national pantheon. The clearest example is the purging of Robert E Lee. Until about 1990 Lee was one of the most admired figures in US history. I am not going to provide the reasons for this at length other than to say he was for many in all parts of the nation the national knight without reproach, the American Bayard with better personal morals. Both Presidents Eisenhower and Truman displayed Lee's portrait in the Oval Office and Truman chose a large portrait of Lee to hang in the foyer of his presidential library. perhaps a final comment on Lee's relationship with the civilian head of government Jefferson Davis compared to Truman's relationship with MacArthur.

In the city near me a very large statue of Lee was removed because the mayor said it represented part of a past that needed to be forgotten in the new borderless, culturally fluid world. Perhaps so but I can only wonder what a society that would purge Robert E Lee for ‘being on the wrong side of history’ represents by adulating a man who at the least appears deeply flawed and morally and ethically challenged to the highest degree.

37 posted on 06/17/2019 10:07:31 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: nathanbedford

nathanbedford,

Always great to see your commentary on FR. Glad to see you commenting more regularly. I read parts of a book on Robert E. Lee you recommended a couple years back.

And am I am grateful you have shined a light on the history of the South and Civil War.

I moved to Athens, Georgia in 2016 and since that time I’ve been surprised how little the community around me know or care to talk about the South’s history. And other than hearing a Southern accent or two on Atlanta’s Rush radio channel, WSB, it’s as if I’m still living in the Northeast, minus the winter weather.

Your profile text is great scholarship. Your historical analysis of Forrest is both interesting and judicious, presenting both modern and historic perspectives.


38 posted on 06/17/2019 10:12:56 AM PDT by poconopundit
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To: Leaning Right

“black kids might be losing a role model over this”

Since the left is determined to change our history and tradition I guess we shouldn’t be surprised they would want to do that to the black youngsters also and further divide us.


39 posted on 06/17/2019 10:43:34 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (yawn)
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To: bigbob

I’ve read that highly successful men have high sex drive.


40 posted on 06/17/2019 10:46:29 AM PDT by Karoo
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