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Apple finally reveals the new Mac Pro — Remember the cheese grater look? It's back!
Endgadget ^ | June 3, 2019 | Nathan Ingraham

Posted on 06/11/2019 11:46:04 PM PDT by Swordmaker


Apple's been teasing a redesigned Mac Pro for years now -- in fact, it's been well over a year since the company said it would be shipping the computer at some point during 2019 after originally promising it would arrive in 2018. Well, today, we're finally getting a look at the successor to that beautifully-designed trash can that Apple introduced in 2013 and then basically failed to upgrade for years. And guess what? It looks a lot like the old, cheese-grater style tower that Apple sold for years.








Monitor not included.

The Mac Pro has a stainless steel frame built around modularity and easy access to the components, something that should make it a lot easier to upgrade than the older model. The entire external case can be lifted right off after you unlock it.


There's a new Intel Xeon processor on board that has up to 28 cores, and the computer supports a positively insane 1.5 terabytes of RAM. And Apple is bringing PCI expansion back, finally -- there are four double-wide slots, three single-wide slots and one half-width slot that Apple populates with its I/O card. That card features two Thunderbolt 3 ports, two USB-A ports and a 3.5mm audio jack. There are also two ethernet ports, as well. As for graphics, Apple will support up to two Radeon Pro Vega II GPUs, though that's not the default configuration.

For video editors out there, Apple is including its own custom hardware called Afterburner. It'll make the Mac Pro capable of playing three simultaneous 8K RAW video streams, or 12 4K streams. The card is capable for processing 6 billion pixels per second. To keep things cool, the Mac Pro has three fans and a blower that Apple says shouldn't be any louder than the iMac Pro when it's under load. (We'll have to hear that to believe it.)

Oh yeah, the Mac Pro has wheels! And Apple is even making its own display to go along with it, a 32-inch LCD display that Apple is calling a 6K Retina display with HDR and 6,016 x 3,384 resolution.

The base Mac Pro will include an eight-core Xeon CPU, 32GB of memory, a 256GB SSD and the Radeon Pro 580X graphics card and will start at $5,999. It'll ship this fall... start saving your couch change.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: applepinglist; newmacpro
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To: PreciousLiberty
I’ll be getting one to evaluate.

Oh, and the Mac uses a very high speed access SSD, not your typical off-the-shelf discount SSD. . . I’m not sure which one of the Dell upgrades it would be, they had so many upgraded SSD choices with various names., too many choices is not a good thing.

For example Samsung sells two grades of 1TB SSDs, one was selling for about (when I was looking for one) $200-$249, the other, much faster, for around $900-$1000. There was a significant difference in speed.

21 posted on 06/12/2019 3:21:12 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Their target market is obviously the more money than brains club.

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More accurately, their market is where time is big money and their customer base is very high end users who can leverage the massive computational power to allow a user to do amazing things -even on their own

22 posted on 06/12/2019 3:31:44 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

Sounds suspiciously like sales nonsense?

Im guessing a stand alone workstation for $25+ has no real market.


23 posted on 06/12/2019 3:52:14 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

I had an original IBM PC. Price for bottom end was $6000.
Today you get a bleeding edge Mac Pro for same price.


24 posted on 06/12/2019 4:34:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Especially since that’s the base model price.

I just built last month for $2,000 a computer with an i9 that has 16 cores at 5.1Ghz, with 64GB of 2666mhz RAM, 1TB Nvme drive, a 1TB SSD, with an Nvidia RTX 2070 graphics processor. It’s married to a 4k 32” monitor.


25 posted on 06/12/2019 5:41:10 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!.)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

“$6,000: is REALLY HIGH”

Did you see those specs? That is not a high price for what you get. That’s like saying a $250,000 3D printer that can print titanium aircraft landing gear parts equivalent to a forging process is priced too high. You obviously do not need such a 3D printer, but, for those who do, it’s a bargain.

Or it’s like saying that the price of the Bugatti La Voiture Noire is too high at $19 million. You don’t use La Voiture Noire to pick up a quart of milk at Safeway.

* 56 teraflops
* driving six 6K 32 inch reference quality monitors simultaneously
* rendering photorealistic video in real-time while applying special effects on the fly
* Intel XEON processor with up to 28 cores and up to 1.5 terabytes of ECC RAM

The original Cray 2 supercomputer had four processors that didn’t have multiple cores. It ran at 0.0019 teraflops, cost $32 million, and required 150–200 kW of electric power generated by two motor-generators operating on 3-phase 480 V AC power.

Last year the U.S. regained the fastest super computer record from China at 200 petaflops with 37,000 processors. It requires 4,000 gpm of cooling water.

That is about 3,600 times more powerful than the new Apple. It cost more than $200 MILLION.

It’s all about price/performance, not just price, and what you need to do.


26 posted on 06/12/2019 5:48:13 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

This is not your run of the mill Mac. This is what they use to edit videos and do massive graphics development.

Chances are...you will NEVER have a reason to have such a monster graphics machine.


27 posted on 06/12/2019 5:58:39 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If we get Medicare for all, will we have to show IDs for service?)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

It’s not that high for the kind of work it’s designed to do... namely professional video editing or animation. For a movie studio this thing is a beast and a bargain (even fully loaded which will probably price out at more than $30,000) however, the rest of us, it’s complete overkill. In a movie studio environment this computer would pay for itself in no time.

I’m a large format photographer, I spend copious time editing (mostly removing dust specs) image files that scan in at 2 to 4 gigabytes for a single image, I currently work on an older Mac Pro, and I definitely don’t need this much computing power, although that monitor seems like it would be awful nice to have.


28 posted on 06/12/2019 6:06:39 AM PDT by Lurker51
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To: Swordmaker

So now I have a decision to make.

I run a company that creates graphic images. Not much video. Little audio.

I run VMWare Fusion to run Quickbooks.

In the past I have purchased Mac Pros.

What the heck fits my needs now? A loaded Mac Mini? Dumping Mac altogether?

I wanted a modular upgradable Mac, but $6K is ridiculous.


29 posted on 06/12/2019 6:09:12 AM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Fresh Wind

It weighs about 40 pounds.


30 posted on 06/12/2019 6:10:21 AM PDT by Lurker51
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To: Swordmaker

This is parody, right?


31 posted on 06/12/2019 6:26:12 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (This article needs a fact checked)
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To: Swordmaker

Looks like a really nice system. 28 cores? Freaking wow. I recently pretty much rebuilt my desktop (the only thing I reused were the drives and video card). The new system is an i9 w/16 cores and 32GB of ram. It’s more power than I need, but it will suffice for at least a decade of use so I’m pretty happy with it. I don’t have much of anything that I need to do that would max out the box (yet).

I can see how folk doing high end graphics and video would be able to put the new Apple desktop to work. Would probably be good for scientific applications as well with that much horsepower. Good to see Apple’s not asleep at the switch.


32 posted on 06/12/2019 6:44:59 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: for-q-clinton; Swordmaker
A lot of people seem to think this is just another PC-level consumer offering and forget that all that computational power and depth used to be available to only large corporations with substantial budgets for IT infrastructure.

Not too long ago, you'd need HP (or IBM, etc) to com in, pay them for professional services hours, spec a mid-range AS400 and then pay again for configuration and setup (unless you had an AS400 guru on payroll) just to get to the point of turn-key.

This AIN'T your fathers PC. Think about this - most of what you see on your TV, Cinema, Pro-YouTube productions and the like, are either partially or entirely processed, edited and compiled on either Mac Pro's or midrange dinosaurs from yesteryear. Why? because the architecture(s) supports that level of performance that's drives the business. Apple didn't build the Mac Pro for consumers that browse FR. It's a whole other target market. The fact that you can pony-up to the retail counter and buy one for yourself is super cool computational power.

Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Apple, HP, IBM or other similar entity, but would LOVE to have one of these in my home studio.

33 posted on 06/12/2019 6:48:37 AM PDT by paulcissa (Politicians want you unarmed so they can kill you.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie; Swordmaker

LOL! good points.

I’m just relieved that it is a tower situation. I thought I was going to have to spring for another laptop.... Just bought one several months ago! Also, not needing a tower / desktop situation at this time.

And with what I do on my computer, I don’t have the need for those ultra fancy features. I love my little Mac Book Pro laptop as is!


34 posted on 06/12/2019 8:45:40 AM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Add another grand for the nano screen coating?

I can’t wait to see the sales numbers. But they only need to sell a few. But they better hurry before they phase out the OS.

What “another grand” for a “nano screen coating” Okie? That’s included in the purchase price and it isn’t a “coating”. It’s a much more difficult to achieve evenly ground glass surface across the entire surface of the 32” diagonal glass of the monitor that has an even less glare coefficient or light absorption than a coating. It’s one of the ways they get an unheard of before, and consistent, 1000 NITS and peak 1,600 NITS from this screen.

And where do you get the idiotic idea that Apple is dropping macOS? They are coming out with macOS13 Catalina this fall. Apple has shown no indication they are dropping MacOS for any other operating system.

Apple’s target market for these work stations have more brains and make money due to what such a work station can do for them. When this computer can stream up to three 8K independent video stream simultaneously at full viewing speed AND independently add FX to each of them to the stream and EDIT them in real time, that allows money to be made. No other workstation can do that. The Apple Mac can do the same with EIGHT 4K streams. More money. That’s just one market.

At the WWDC keynote, they brought a music arranger on stage who showed how it was being used to mix a documentary score using Logic Pro. . . And he could now use over 1200 tracks, with each being an independent instrument. It was spectacular, and edit on the fly into an 8K video. That’s another market. More money, big money.

35 posted on 06/12/2019 10:01:41 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

After you’re done with your evaluation and you decide to sell it off for $900 to an old retired guy: Call me.


36 posted on 06/12/2019 10:07:12 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie; rdcbn
Im guessing a stand alone workstation for $25+ has no real market.

On the contrary, SGI Indigo workstations regularly sold for $25,000 and up per workstation in the 1990s when money was less inflated making that $25K more like $50K each. . . And were indispensable in making such movies as Toy Story, Monsters, Inc., Cars, etc. from Pixar, which bought dozens of them as did Disney studios, and many of the other Hollywood studios for heavy CG special effects movies and editing suites. . . And they had nowhere near the capability of this Mac Pro.

37 posted on 06/12/2019 10:11:06 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker

Make America grate again? (rimshot)


38 posted on 06/12/2019 10:11:36 AM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Im guessing a stand alone workstation for $25+ has no real market.

The CIA and deep staters will want racks of them. These are not machine to play Pong on the are not even for geeks, at least not poor one, they are for Professionals period. Little guys like most of us will have to wait 10 tears or so to pick one of these up on eBay at a discount.

By the way creep over there and see what a well equipped 2012 MacPro sells for then come and tell us again how awful those expensive Macs are.

39 posted on 06/12/2019 10:22:29 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: ctdonath2
I had an original IBM PC. Price for bottom end was $6000. Today you get a bleeding edge Mac Pro for same price.

Actually, it’s worse than that. In terms of inflation, $6,000 in 2019 adjusted dollars is $16,020! So for 1982 adjusted dollars, you are getting a far more powerful computer for less than one-third the price of that original bottom end PC which had only a single floppy drive.

IIRC, one could buy a real basic IBM PC for $1600, with no drives, no monitor, no OS, (that configuration in 2019 dollars is about $5500) but what you are quoting is the minimum actual useable machine with monitor, two floppy drives, and MS-DOS, and the extra box of documentation.

40 posted on 06/12/2019 10:24:36 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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