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Does the Congress Have the Constitutional Authority to Ban Silencers/Suppressors
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Posted on 06/04/2019 8:36:42 AM PDT by Cassius Flavia Agrippa

The 2nd Amendment prohibits such a ban:

Yes, it does:________ No, it does not:_______

The Enumerated Powers Doctrine also prohibits such a ban:

Yes, it does:_________ No, it does not:_________


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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa

Will they? Yes..... According to the Constitution, No. The 1791 Bill of Rights limits government, or put simply, are the laws that government can not break. However, unless it’s through the Convention of the states. 2/3 and 3/4....Bypassing the Constitution with erroneous laws has gotten too far out of hand.

However, with that being said. The question should be “why the heck was this killer using a silencer”? It’s a freaking mass shooting.....why then? So they can ban them-—never let a crisis go to waste?

Now all of the sudden they’re pushing for a silencer ban?


21 posted on 06/04/2019 8:54:47 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: MHGinTN

I doubt that anyone on Hollywood is aware of that.............


22 posted on 06/04/2019 8:55:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: mikelets456

Would a ban be constitutional?

Nobody seems to want to answer.

BTW, my answer is a clear NO.


23 posted on 06/04/2019 8:56:07 AM PDT by Cassius Flavia Agrippa
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To: mikelets456

Would a ban be constitutional? That is the question.


24 posted on 06/04/2019 8:56:34 AM PDT by Cassius Flavia Agrippa
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To: mad_as_he$$

Congress’s opinion doesn’t matter to me.

I will do whatever I want, whenever I want to do it regardless of what a bunch of scumbags dictate that I must or must not do.

My servants are not my masters.


25 posted on 06/04/2019 8:56:46 AM PDT by chris37 (Monday, March 25 2019 is Maga Day!)
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To: Red Badger

There are adapters available over the Internet which allow one ot use an oil filter as a sound suppressor. Frabkly, banning sound suppressors is not a constitutional issue so the 1934 regulations were unconstitutional and tacked onto the ban on full auto weapons by a socialist fed.


26 posted on 06/04/2019 8:57:31 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Loud Mime

With certain kinds of ammo and depending on the size...SUPPRESSORs...can make a firearm quite quiet.

They’re saying that the guy used a suppressor. Ok. Was it a commercially available one? Or did he make one? Not hard to do at all and can be done using the housing of a Maglite flashlight, a drill press and some solvent cups.

If he did use a commercial one, then this could lead one to think this was planned some time ago. Months ago. Possibly 6 months or more.

First you have the upfront costs to buy the suppressor, fee for the $200 tax stamp, sending the $200 and Form 4, and then waiting for the folks in West Virginia to approve your purchase and enable you to pick it up from your dealer. It takes some time if you do it the legal way.

The last time I got a Tax Stamp for a short barrelled rifle, which falls into the same Class 3/NFA category as suppressors, I waited 8 months.


27 posted on 06/04/2019 8:58:04 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Don Corleone
-- SCOTUS will ultimately decide. --

Arguably, it already did.

In Miller, weapons that have a military use are in the scope of the 2nd amendment. All Circuit Courts interpret Miller for the opposite of what it says, and SCOTUS, given may oppotunities to correct the Circuits, is fine with what the Circuit Courts read Miller for..

In Heller, arms and devices that have been banned a long time, ergo "not in common civilian use," the ban is constitutional. This was done so that bans on military arms (in particular, the M-16 and others banned by 1986 Act) would stand.

On the 2nd amendment, the courts are full of garbage. But, they have the government behind them so, like the Mafia, I'll do whatever they say, otherwise they will kill me. Has nothing to do with "right and wrong," or "rule of law." It's law of the jungle, and the government abhors power to the people.

28 posted on 06/04/2019 8:59:08 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa
First of All....What would be the point? It's not like it stops a bullet.

More worthless legislation.

29 posted on 06/04/2019 9:00:31 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Red Badger

Not possible


30 posted on 06/04/2019 9:00:53 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa
What is YOUR opinion?

Legalistic arguments on the "Constitutional Authority" of Congress to ban firearms mufflers are completely pointless.

The Constitution has completely failed to restrain Government from imposing restrictions on the Bill-of-Rights. The Constitution today is an empty shell.

The question must be addressed in explicitly political terms. Wholesale replacement of legislators and civil servants is necessary if we want Constitutional restrictions to mean anything.

Maybe that is not what we really want. We are clearly not doing what is needed to get what we say we want.

31 posted on 06/04/2019 9:01:49 AM PDT by flamberge (Predictions are hard, especially about the future)
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To: MHGinTN

A lawn mower muffler can be modified as well.............


32 posted on 06/04/2019 9:01:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: qaz123

Some say it is.................


33 posted on 06/04/2019 9:02:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

Some say, what is?


34 posted on 06/04/2019 9:04:11 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa
I thought that was obvious. I don't agree with it but I suspect it would be upheld as it is in line with the restrictions already in place and there is no political support to defend suppressors or legalize them.

And seriously, do you think there is anyone on FR that is going to say "Ban Them!"?

35 posted on 06/04/2019 9:04:15 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Red Badger

There is youtube video of using a Wix fuel filter with a thread adapter to suppress sound from a 9mm rifle! Worked pretty well too.


36 posted on 06/04/2019 9:05:20 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa

Congress does a lot of things that it does not have any constitutional authority to do. That doesn’t seem to make a bit of difference.

And then the laws go to the Supreme Court which is populated by judges who have no respect for the Constitution.


37 posted on 06/04/2019 9:05:21 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: qaz123

What you said was “Not possible”................


38 posted on 06/04/2019 9:05:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Don Corleone

I don’t care what the black robed tyrants have to say on the matter.

I can read, and shall not be infringed is pretty clear. There is no “except for these weapons” in there.


39 posted on 06/04/2019 9:05:52 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: MHGinTN

Wix?

Not STP?..............


40 posted on 06/04/2019 9:06:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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