not since 1776...
Posted on 05/30/2019 3:36:39 AM PDT by C19fan
President Donald Trump and his family are heading to the U.K. next week for his first state visit after multiple delays, again putting a spotlight on the matter of royal protocol — what is and is not acceptable when he meets Queen Elizabeth.
Last summer, during a working visit to the U.K., Trump made headlines when he shook hands with the 92-year-old monarch instead of bowing. While the move was criticized by some online, it was not against the rules (such as they are).
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I bend my neck to no man or woman.
Only to God.
Ditto for m knees.
Bow to a woman who’s there only because of birth, and who belongs to a family that has been a curse on the Western world...
On a cold day in Hades.
I must admit I would bend the knee. Watch too many English period pieces. :)
‘Cause we won the war and are no longer British subjects.
If you’re a student of history, you will understand my utter aversion.
But Obama was born a British subject with loyalties to the Crown. And he was born Muslim. It’s easy to see how the Obama admin could use the Brits to try to bring down the newly elected president whose loyalties belong to the American people.
“and who belongs to a family that has been a curse on the Western world...”
That’s a little over the top, dude.
He wasn’t due to British law at the time as it pertains to bigamy.
not since 1776...
“‘Cause we won the war and are no longer British subjects.”
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Agree. But, it’s not just that; this is the land of the free and home of the brave. Americans don’t bow to anyone, regardless of their stature. Obama made me want to puke with his bowing, apologizing and such.
President Trump or any president does not bow to any leader.
And neither does any citizen of the United States. That was settled in history over 200 years ago.
When Nancy Reagan was presented to the court and curtsied to the Queen of England, it was an embarrassing moment for our country.
Third, we kicked their ass in one war and saved their ass in two more.
No American needs to bow to any foreign head of state or head of government, ever.
Damn right. We kicked her ancestors asses out of here twice. And twice in the last century we bailed them out of two world wars.
No bowing, please; we are Americans, not British subjects
By Miss Manners, Posted Jul 28, 2012
Dear Miss Manners: In regard to Americans bowing to royalty, I firmly agree with you that bowing in subservience to another person is out of the question. (I would assume that a bow to a Japanese person is different, since both parties bow as a sign of respect.) But what would be the protocol if one were to meet Queen Elizabeth in England? Would the circumstances change if the visit was at her palace vs. a public venue? I have no plans to meet any royalty anytime soon, but I am curious as to how it would be handled.
Gentle Reader: Unless, heaven forbid, you are an envoy of the U.S. government who has been sent to deliver a retroactive surrender to our former British rulers, you should not pay obeisance to the queen.
We fought hard not to have to do so. Why give in now? The next thing we knew, she’d be taxing our tea and impressing our sailors.
Miss Manners assures you that the British have now accepted the loss of their American colonies with good grace and do not expect Americans to kneel to their queen anywhere.
Japan is more complicated, quite aside from the fact that we won a war there, too. The order and angle of bowing to different people are both significant, so that unless you are a student of Japanese etiquette, you are likely to be sending wrong, if not insulting, signals.
Fortunately, the Japanese are polite enough to make allowances for ignorant foreigners. As foreign royals generally realize that non-subjects who bow to them are doing so from ignorance, not from the intention to surrender.
It’s a New World, baby.
Regarding saving their asses, we definitely did in WW2, they stood alone against Hitler and without our joining in it was as only a matter of time for them. But while our involvement in WWI was a wildcard that shifted the ongoing stalemate in favor of the allies and ended the war fairly quickly, it’s not clear to me that France and the UK would have ultimately lost had we not joined in. Yes, they would be tossing many thousands more men into that never ending meat grinder but so were the Germans. It might have come down to who runs out of men first I suppose.
But bowing? Nope...ain't gonna happen!
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