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Jordan Peterson on Catholicism: ‘That’s as sane as people can get’
LifeSiteNews ^ | May 27, 2019 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 05/29/2019 12:37:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

May 27, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) — Speaking with one of the best-known conservative Jews, Dennis Prager, at the PragerU summit last week, world-famous psychologist Jordan Peterson spoke of God and his views of faith. After speaking about his dislike for the question ‘Do you believe in God?’ Peterson said, “I think that Catholicism — that's as sane as people can get.”

Peterson has often been asked about his faith, if he believes in God, and he said the question has always troubled him. He promised a podcast on the matter since he has given his dislike for the question much thought.

He explained, “Who would have the audacity to claim that they believed in God if they examined the way they lived? Who would dare say that?”

“To believe, in a Christian sense,” he added, “means that you live it out fully and that's an that's an unbearable task in some sense.”

Then in one long drawn-out, rapid-fire thought, the type that has enthralled his millions of fans, he laid out extemporaneously the vision of a believer in God:

“To be able to accept the structure of existence, the suffering that goes along with it and the disappointment and the betrayal, and to nonetheless act properly; to aim at the good with all your heart; to dispense with the malevolence and your desire for destruction and revenge and all of that; and to face things courageously and to tell the truth to speak the truth and to act it out, that's what it means to believe -- that's what it means -- it doesn't mean to state it, it means to act it out. And, unless you act it out you should be very careful about claiming it. And so, I've never been comfortable saying anything other than I try to act as if God exists because God only knows what you'd be if you truly believed.”

See the full exchange of Peterson and Prager here.


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To: boatbums; metmom

That was what indulgences were for. J/K but you get it. Corruption in abundance.


921 posted on 06/07/2019 11:57:54 PM PDT by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The most striking thing about your failure to recognize the Scriptural roots of the Mass, is that it flows directly from the way you "eat and drink" without discerning Body. Paul says that those who do this, "have to answer for the Body and Blood of the Lord." (Cor. 11:23-29)

I assume it doesn't occur to you that you could be misunderstanding that verse but I find it interesting that statistically over 60% of Catholics don't believe in the real presence of the Eucharist and of the 30+ percent who do claim they believe, likely half of those only make the claim so as not to look bad in front of other Catholics...

Maybe your religion messed up when they made the claim that bread and wine turn into flesh and blood...Seems they would have said that Jesus' flesh and blood turned into bread and wine instead...I mean, people know if they are eating a piece of bread or not...And Jesus as well as Paul acknowledged that what they were eating and drinking was bread and wine, NOT flesh and blood...You might get a lot more people to believe the fable...

Joh_6:48  I am that bread of life.
Joh_6:51  I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Jesus did not say that he was the meat that came down from Heaven, or that he was the meat of life...

Luk 22:19  And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. . 

Do what in remembrance of me???

You and your Church claim that in that little sentence (this do in remembrance of me) that Jesus conveyed to his apostles that they themselves from then on would call Jesus down from heaven (which would be impossible for Him to resist) and would become Jesus himself while at the same time they would turn the bread and wine into the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus...So now you have Jesus holding Jesus...

But not just Jesus holding Jesus but that Jesus (priest) is participating in the sacrifice of the Jesus that is being made present...

Now we all know that the sacrifice is the death (killing) of what is being sacrificed and the draining of its blood... But nope, not for the Catholics...Your Eucharist is the flesh and blood AFTER the sacrifice, somehow...

All this from 'DO THIS IN REMEMBRANCE OF ME...

But interestingly again is the fact that Catholics no longer drink the blood, nor do they break the bread...They just hand out a little wafer...And why is that breaking of the bread significant???

1Co 11:24  And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 

You break the bread to show the Lord's broken body...Or in the case of the Catholic religion where Jesus is present, you are to BREAK the body...

1Co 11:26  For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. 

The is the tough one for you guys...It is not the aftermath of the Crucifixion you are participating in...You are participating in the Lord's death...

And all that from 'do this in remembrance of me'...Any wonder why people don't believe it???

922 posted on 06/08/2019 1:05:14 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Mrs. Don-o
aMPU, one can’t prove things by assertion, nor solidify a conclusion by re-assertion. It’s more interesting if you keep that in mind.

Many an apparition would be ignored if you guys REALLY believed THIS!


BTW; who are the dead in Christ?

923 posted on 06/08/2019 4:56:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The outlook wasn’t brilliant for the Mudville Nine that day...


924 posted on 06/08/2019 4:57:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I don't condemn you; it is not my vocation to be your judge.

You merely choose to be a member of a religious organization that does:

"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."

--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)

 

 

 "We are compelled in virtue of our faith to believe and maintain that there is only one holy Catholic Church, and that one is apostolic. This we firmly believe and profess without qualification. Outside this Church there is no salvation and no remission of sins, the Spouse in the Canticle proclaiming: 'One is my dove, my perfect one. One is she of her mother, the chosen of her that bore her' (Canticle of Canticles 6:8); which represents the one mystical body whose head is Christ, of Christ indeed, as God. And in this, 'one Lord, one faith, one baptism' (Ephesians 4:5). Certainly Noah had one ark at the time of the flood, prefiguring one Church which perfect to one cubit having one ruler and guide, namely Noah, outside of which we read all living things were destroyed… We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff."

--Pope Boniface VIII, Bull Unam sanctam (A.D. 1302)


925 posted on 06/08/2019 4:59:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
But; the day may come when we slow down from a 5 lined ditty to a mere seventeen syllable concoction.

Then a chance to pass will avail itself to you.

926 posted on 06/08/2019 5:02:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Think on these things...


1 Thessalonians 4:13–18

13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope.

14 For isince we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep.

15 For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.

16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and rwith the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.

17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.


927 posted on 06/08/2019 5:09:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
The outlook wasn’t brilliant for the Mudville Nine that day...

Are we talking about Holliston, Massachusetts, or Stockton, California? I was just in Stockton about a year ago. 👍

928 posted on 06/08/2019 6:05:27 AM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold.)
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To: Elsie; boatbums; metmom
Hope arose in Mudville, when Casey came to bat
Seeming only to want, to improve his personal stat.
Some would say
He flailed away
Until Casey struck out, and on his face he fell flat.
929 posted on 06/08/2019 6:36:36 AM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold.)
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To: Mark17
😂 The Pinoy Poet.
930 posted on 06/08/2019 6:53:34 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Iscool

+1 Amen


931 posted on 06/08/2019 7:18:36 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
👍
932 posted on 06/08/2019 7:51:39 AM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold.)
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To: Elsie; Mark17
The rules for a limerick are fairly simple:

  1. They are five lines long.
  2. Lines 1, 2, and 5 rhyme with one another.
  3. Lines 3 and 4 rhyme with each other.
  4. They have a distinctive rhythm.
  5. They are usually funny.

933 posted on 06/08/2019 5:00:43 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: boatbums
😂
934 posted on 06/08/2019 11:02:02 PM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Jordan has commented that

this is actually the third of

three videos that he recommends be

watched in a particular order

here is a link to his youtube play list.

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935 posted on 06/12/2019 2:12:55 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7

Thank you, infool7

It certainly seems worth a look!


936 posted on 06/12/2019 4:24:48 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Let's keep the *sapiens* in *Home sapiens*.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It certainly seems worth a look!

Oh YEAH!

I watched the first one and it is

FULL of rare gem's of unconventional wisdom.

Please pray for Jordan and his family

the world is no fan of the Truth and

he's not backing down.

More evidence that

my Triumph Theory Hypothesis might be correct.

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937 posted on 06/12/2019 4:41:56 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7

:o)

to Jordan Peterson!

938 posted on 06/12/2019 6:10:02 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Let's keep the *sapiens* in *Home sapiens*.)
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To: Elsie
Is metmom’s real name “Tim”? Who are you talking to? You; of the extra long 'explanations' of things Catholic; cannot figure who Tim is? How strange.

Who is Tim, then? I can't figure this out unless metmom's name is Tim, which I doubt.

939 posted on 07/02/2019 8:59:59 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good." - Romans 12:9)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

344 replies ago...


940 posted on 07/02/2019 2:37:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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