Posted on 05/29/2019 12:37:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
May 27, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) Speaking with one of the best-known conservative Jews, Dennis Prager, at the PragerU summit last week, world-famous psychologist Jordan Peterson spoke of God and his views of faith. After speaking about his dislike for the question Do you believe in God? Peterson said, I think that Catholicism that's as sane as people can get.
Peterson has often been asked about his faith, if he believes in God, and he said the question has always troubled him. He promised a podcast on the matter since he has given his dislike for the question much thought.
He explained, Who would have the audacity to claim that they believed in God if they examined the way they lived? Who would dare say that?
To believe, in a Christian sense, he added, means that you live it out fully and that's an that's an unbearable task in some sense.
Then in one long drawn-out, rapid-fire thought, the type that has enthralled his millions of fans, he laid out extemporaneously the vision of a believer in God:
To be able to accept the structure of existence, the suffering that goes along with it and the disappointment and the betrayal, and to nonetheless act properly; to aim at the good with all your heart; to dispense with the malevolence and your desire for destruction and revenge and all of that; and to face things courageously and to tell the truth to speak the truth and to act it out, that's what it means to believe -- that's what it means -- it doesn't mean to state it, it means to act it out. And, unless you act it out you should be very careful about claiming it. And so, I've never been comfortable saying anything other than I try to act as if God exists because God only knows what you'd be if you truly believed.
See the full exchange of Peterson and Prager here.
Both Judaism and Catholic Christianity teach that salvation comes from a combination of faith in God plus good works on earth.
By contrast, Protestant Christianity teaches that "faith alone" will save you.
Likewise, Judaism and Catholic Christianity teach that religious authority come from a combination of scripture and tradition.
Protestant Christianity teaches that the "bible alone" is the sole source of authority.
*snicker*
I’ll be sure to tell my mother.
Wishful thinking on the part of Catholics and not supported by Scripture at all.
Jesus is all we need for salvation.
We come to God only through HIM.
No church died for anyone.
Your opinion otherwise is no more relevant than Peterson's.
Christ died for the Church.
He's married to Her.
The baffling part is, why did Jesus tell us to go and do likewise?
Fact of Catholic Church lasting until end of time supported by history. Was there at beginning and still here.
I respect his intelligence, and accept he has a following.
I follow Christ rather than any philosopher, and - since I have been studying the Word since five, and chose at that age to emulate Solomon by pursuing wisdom rather than wealth, and have served in ministry - I frankly trust my own philosophy more than Petersen’s.
I do not begrudge others their preoccupation with him, but I realized long ago that if I wanted to read Christian philosophy or commentary by others, I vastly preferred Chesterton, Lewis, or Tolkien to any of the more highly touted philosophers and theologians.
(Tolkien’s is generally more implicit, but he does explicate it in his essay, Tree and Leaf.)
He is almost saying faith without works is dead.
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He stole that from James 2:14-26, the James whose Epistle Martin Luther greatly disliked (for obvious reasons), calling it an Epistle of Straw.
“To believe, in a Christian sense, means that you live it out fully and that’s an that’s an unbearable task in some sense.
Yes, unbearable, but there is Peterson’s (and many Christians’) lack of understanding of the gospel.
The gospel has a second clause beyond forgiveness, namely the gift of the Holy Spirit. The God I believe in bears the weight of my life, and I live in His strength. By his Spirit I am being conformed to the age of Christ.
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Jesus is a stumbling block to works oriented people like Peterson.
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Would that include he who wrote the Epistle of James?
Protestant Christianity teaches that the “bible alone” is the sole source of authority.
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Where in the Bible is that “bedrock” truth stated?
Jesus is all we need for salvation.
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Does that mean we don’t need to understand and follow any of the teachings found in the Bible?
So?
Longevity proves nothing.
Why should Satan attack Catholicism? Some of his best agents work there.
Between the current pope and magisterium and the host of homosexual, child molesting priests that have infested Catholicism for so many hundreds of years, Satan has a pretty good thing going there in discrediting Christianity and turning people against God. Why would he want to put an end to it?
Nowhere. Ironically Sola Scriptura is itself “unbiblical”. ;-)
That's wrong-headed because we are not cotton-picking our way out of slavery, we are not lifting ourselves by our own bootstraps--- rather, by the working of the Holy Spirit, we are bring conformed to Christ.
As this happens, we may also very well be developing tested virtue, walking the warrior's path, etc. But the working is not "our" achievement, a "personal best," as if we were acting merely in imitation of Christ. It is that we are living IN Christ, and He in us. We become sharers in His divinity, Who humbled Himself to share in our humanity.
Behold, it's a whole new ballgame.
You make my point. The Church and its magisterial teachings survive Satan’s best tries and members, all the way up to and including popes, who fail to live the commands of Christ.
It seems that you completely missed my point.
It’s that Satan himself is NOT attacking Roman Catholicism.
He has no reason to.
He’s better off protecting it himself.
There it is. Thank you very much.
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