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Return Of The Transgender Powerlifter
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| 05/24/2019
| Jazz Shaw
Posted on 05/24/2019 7:42:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Earlier this month, we talked about the case of transgender powerlifter Mary Gregory. After clearing the field at a championship event and setting four world records in the process, the governing commission reviewed the results and stripped Gregory of his world records, citing the fact that he is biologically male. (Gregory has been taking hormone therapy to reduce his testosterone levels for roughly a year but has not had surgery yet. I reserve the right to stick with the correct pronoun for his gender until the surgery is complete.) The revocation of the titles caused quite the media stir, with LGBT advocates expressing outrage, but some famous female athletes praising the decision.
The Washington Post has taken an interest in the story and reports that Gregory is more than a bit disappointed in the decision. If this can happen to him, the powerlifter wonders, where do we “draw the line?”
Gregory said she now has to work so much harder to lift less, and feels her strength cant be attributed simply to testosterone levels or physique.
Too much emphasis is put on testosterone, she said. There are so many other factors that determine how much you lift: biomechanics, better leverages, joints, lengths of bones where do we stop and draw the line? socioeconomics and access to nutrition and coaching and gyms.
Not for nothing, but this isn’t a question of “where do we draw the line” now. The lines have been drawn for the entirety of the recorded history of mankind. And when it comes to competitive sports, those lines are drawn straight down the middle of your 23rd chromosomal pairing. If you have an X and a Y, you stand on one side. If you have two Xs, you stand on the other. It’s the transgender social activists who are trying to blur and move those lines.
We keep hearing the same failing arguments from activists when it comes to the subject of men competing in women’s sports. They somehow insist that the inherent advantages men have over women are either nonexistent or exaggerated. But the facts declare otherwise in the clearest fashion possible. Even with the hormone suppression treatments, Gregory is lifting more than almost any other woman, but still far less than the top male lifters. The men’s Olympic record for the snatch, clean and jerk in the 69kg weight class is 357kg (787 pounds). The women’s record in the same weight class is 275kg (606 pounds). That’s not even remotely in the same ballpark.
You can go down the list of the various competitive sports and check for yourself. (Believe me… I’ve done it.) You can’t show me one Olympic event with comparable metrics in racing, lifting or similar competitive features where the women exceed the men. Not a single one. There’s a reason for that and we all know what it is. The only ones in denial here are the activists in the trans community. And as many professional female athletes have already pointed out, we don’t need to draw the line. We need to hold the original line, or women’s competitive sports are basically going to be a thing of the past.
TOPICS: Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: powerlifting; transgender; weightlifting
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To: MHGinTN
His pride and lust for winning has over ridden his God installed gender.I would be embarrassed to know that the only way to win at sports was to compete against females. These she-males who compete in sports are even more effed up that the "standard" ones.
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posted on
05/24/2019 8:24:42 AM PDT
by
Sans-Culotte
(If it weren't for fake hate crimes, there would be no hate crimes at all.)
To: 2banana
The East Germans were way ahead on this!!! We've already shown our tolerance on this with a former FLOTUS.
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posted on
05/24/2019 8:28:08 AM PDT
by
C210N
(You can vote your way into Socialism; but, you have to shoot your way out of it.)
To: SeekAndFind
Shouldn’t this ;loser be power lifting in the exercise area of a mental hospital. What a loon.
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posted on
05/24/2019 8:30:21 AM PDT
by
hal ogen
(First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
To: SeekAndFind
There has been a big hoohah about women competing with men in sports for many years. The change in certain sports like the PGA and the NBA or MLB has been a real disaster for the proponents of single sex sports.
Whereas I don’t disagree with the women’s opportunity to compete at higher levels than the NCAA or women’s AAU/IOC competitions, this article is a perfect example of why intersex competitions won’t happen. The bodies are different and their strengths are not in the same areas, and the sports individually call for different skills. But if the only thing stopping men from competing in sports with women, at the women’s level, is removal of a sex organ, which has nothing to do with a competitive level of anything except the swimsuit competition, then women are in for a destructive time in their status as individuals. Sometimes it’s better to want than to have.
rwood
To: SeekAndFind
".... If this can happen to him, the powerlifter wonders, where do we draw the line?...."The "line" is not hard to define unless you're confused about who or what you are.
If you have a penis, you're not a girl. Go compete with the men.
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posted on
05/24/2019 8:34:48 AM PDT
by
HotHunt
(Been there. Done that.)
To: Mathews
Cant change DNA...
Thats right, dont be a biology denier. He=He She=She
He-: = steer
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posted on
05/24/2019 8:36:21 AM PDT
by
9422WMR
To: SeekAndFind
Not sure how Gregory won four events....
She got a ZERO on the snatch!
To: SeekAndFind
He looks like Benny Hill.
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posted on
05/24/2019 8:42:23 AM PDT
by
dragonblustar
(I love reading Trump tweets in the morning.)
To: MHGinTN
She was also quickly smacked down for her comments, by the LGBT members. IIRC, even being threatened to rescind the awards that group had given her. I believe she softened her stance after that.
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posted on
05/24/2019 8:42:29 AM PDT
by
originalbuckeye
('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
To: Bartholomew Roberts
I saw what you did there!
:)
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posted on
05/24/2019 8:43:20 AM PDT
by
Reily
To: SeekAndFind
Hands are a dead giveaway. The person has manhands.
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posted on
05/24/2019 8:43:36 AM PDT
by
originalbuckeye
('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
To: SeekAndFind; All
Funny how men are inherently priveleged in EVERY AREA OF LIFE, except in sports (where everyone with any intellect acknowledges that men hav a huge advantage)?
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posted on
05/24/2019 8:53:12 AM PDT
by
originalbuckeye
('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
To: Bartholomew Roberts
RE: She got a ZERO on the snatch!
She HE got a ZERO on the snatch!
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posted on
05/24/2019 8:53:56 AM PDT
by
SeekAndFind
(look at Michigan, it will)
To: Redwood71
RE: There has been a big hoohah about women competing with men in sports for many years. The change in certain sports like the PGA and the NBA or MLB has been a real disaster for the proponents of single sex sports.
Well, I can’t speak for most other sports, but the only change I see in the NBA for instance is WOMEN being referees even in a man’s game.
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posted on
05/24/2019 8:55:31 AM PDT
by
SeekAndFind
(look at Michigan, it will)
To: SeekAndFind
man, i hope my hubby doesn’t see “her” at the gym! He may dump me.........
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posted on
05/24/2019 8:57:04 AM PDT
by
ronniesgal
(so I wonder what his FR handle is????)
To: SeekAndFind
End of women sports....RIP
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posted on
05/24/2019 9:09:16 AM PDT
by
B.O. Plenty
(Give war a chance....)
To: SeekAndFind
Statement by the author:
I reserve the right to stick with the correct pronoun for his gender until the surgery is complete.
Good for the author. But it must be pointed out that the surgery won't change the gender confused gentleman's DNA, and thus his sex.
DNA doesn't change, no matter how well the surgery is performed.
Kudos to the governing commission for having the common sense to strip the titles from a man competing in a woman's sport.
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posted on
05/24/2019 9:22:58 AM PDT
by
upchuck
(No muzzy is fit to hold public office - their cult (religion) is incompatible with the Constitution.)
To: SeekAndFind
(...I reserve the right to stick with the correct pronoun for his gender until the surgery is complete.)
Him having a chopitoffame no more makes him female than a female having her addadicktome makes her a male. Each, however, is a victim of a mental illness.
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posted on
05/24/2019 10:17:18 AM PDT
by
JimRed
( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
To: SeekAndFind
“Gregory has been taking hormone therapy to reduce his testosterone levels for roughly a year but has not had surgery yet.”
So someone with a package is competing against actual women in a women’s athletic event. Last I knew, “someone with a package” was a guy. Maybe a pretty strange guy, but a guy nonetheless.
If you don’t, and never did, have the uterus that you were born with, then you’re not a woman. If you have, or once did have, the package that you were born with, then you’re not a woman. If you have an X and a Y chromosome in every single cell of your body, then you’re not a woman.
If this wasn’t so sick, it’d be among the most humorous things ever. Imagine, all of the organizations out there who fought for DECADES to carve out a place for girls and women to have their own sports leagues and teams, and the same level of scholarships, and to protect them against predatory guys trying leer at, cop a feel or rape them...after all of that, now the very same groups are so utterly captured by the Leftist Democrats that they are at best silent (and, at worst, cooperative) in the blurring of lines between male and female (blurring the legal lines, that is - because biology, like math, doesn’t give a rat’s ass about politics and beliefs). Oh, and to top it all off, the same Leftist Dems (including these so-called women’s rights organizations) who proclaim that the conservatives/Republicans are “anti-science” are now saying that someone with a package is a woman!!!!
Again, if it wasn’t so sick, it’d be funny.
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posted on
05/24/2019 10:35:33 AM PDT
by
Ancesthntr
("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
To: LittleBillyInfidel
“If the participant were to donate his or her dna, for purposes of cloning, what sex would the clone baby be, according to a panel of biologists? Then, make a ruling upon that. I mean, the left is all about scientific consensus, right?”
I wouldn’t be so quick to put together such a panel these days. First off, there’s the issue of whether the being is even a baby human or not and, second, probably some percentage of these folks would say that the child would have to make that choice itself, rather than assigning a gender.
Yes, our society is THAT f’d up. If I was the commander of an alien exploratory force looking for intelligent life and I came across this planet right now, I’d order the entire planet sterilized, down to at least 5 miles below the surface.
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posted on
05/24/2019 10:42:17 AM PDT
by
Ancesthntr
("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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