NASA creating world's first all-electric airplanes...to save Earth from eco-disaster [tr]

The Sun, via FoxNews.com/science ^ | May 17, 2019 | Charlotte Edwards | The Sun

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NASA creating world's first all-electric airplanes powered by 'holy grail' frozen hydrogen fuel to save Earth from eco-disaster

NASA funded scientists are working on an environmentally friendly electric plane that's powered by cryogenically-liquified hydrogen fuel.

The engineers have been given three years and $6 million (£4.6million) to create the tech which could revolutionize the aviation industry.

The aviation industry is often lambasted for not doing enough to help save the environment. ..."

At the same time, hydrogen is finally becoming a cost-effective fuel source.

However, hydrogen cells on their own may be able to power trains or turbines but they lack the ability to power a jet engine without weighing it down because they take up a lot of space.

Luckily, the University of Illinois researchers working on the project have found a way to cryogenically cool hydrogen cells so they can be condensed into a liquid and used as fuel.

When this hydrogen liquid is mixed with oxygen in the engine there is a powerful reaction, which results in a lot of energy that can be converted into electricity to drive an electric propulsion system.

[ETL]

"What do I think of the new NASA administrator?
He's OK, I guess.
A little stupid on the "global warming" nonsense, though."

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New NASA chief Bridenstine says humans contribute to climate change 'in a major way'

FoxNews/Science ^ | May 22, 2018 | Sarah Lewin

In a NASA town hall yesterday (May 17), NASA's new administrator, Jim Bridenstine, said that he knows Earth's climate is changing, and that humans contribute to it "in a major way," also supporting NASA's research into that important area. The statement is significant because Bridenstine has expressed doubt about human-caused climate change in the past, causing some to question his suitability to lead a fact-focused NASA.

In 2013, as an Oklahoma congressman, Bridenstine claimed there was no current trend toward global warming. More recently, such as in his NASA administrator confirmation hearings last November, he has acknowledged that human activity contributes to climate change. But he had stopped short of saying that humans are the phenomenon's primary cause.

At the NASA employee town hall, Bridenstine described how his thinking had "evolved" on the topic and laid out his current beliefs.

"I don't deny the consensus that the climate is changing; in fact, I fully believe and know that the climate is changing," he said. "I also know that we, human beings, are contributing to it in a major way. Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. We're putting it into the atmosphere in volumes that we haven't seen, and that greenhouse gas is warming the planet.

"That is absolutely happening, and we are responsible for it," he added. "NASA is the one agency on the face of the planet that has the most credibility to do the science necessary so that we can understand it better than ever before."

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[editor-surveyor]

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Bovine plop.

[mowowie]

OK..........

[Vaquero]

How much energy from coal, oil and/or nuclear is needed to a: release hydrogen from water and b: compress it to make it a cryogenic liquid.

Trump needs to fire the NASA administrator

[dp0622]

You guys try it first!! :)

[Vaquero]

How much energy from coal, oil and/or nuclear is needed to a: release hydrogen from water and b: compress it to make it a cryogenic liquid.

Trump needs to fire the NASA administrator

[samtheman]

Not for me.

I’ll let others take that flight.

[reg45]

Why not just use hydrogen to power the jet engines? It’s already been done. Lockheed had an experimental hydrogen powered L1011 decades ago.

[Regulator]

This is what happens when you hire a non-tech graduate to run a joint like NASA.

Oops, I’m sorry, he learned how to fly an F-18. See button, push button. Pull back with firm pressure. Now he’s a Big Smarty Pants.

Well, as for Anthropogenic Climate Change, it’s just confounding out here in the West! This morning, Squaw Valley got 11” overnight to finally ring the bell! 700” of snow for this season:

https://squawalpine.com/skiing-riding/weather-conditions-webcams/snow-weather-reports-lake-tahoe

They had a banner year in 2016-2017, and even better this year. So uh, where’s the “climate change”? We were being told that the droughts would be endless just 4 years ago.

Then Mama Nature thought she’d pour water on that and opened the heavens. Now there’s no drought anywhere in California (well, one ‘lil corner of the state on the border is mildly dry...since it’s a desert, that’s normal).

When does the keening and wailing set in?!

I know!!

In two weeks the screaming about all the FLOODING from runoff will ensue. Climate Change will scream Bill Nye the Nowhere Guy! Plague, Pestilence and Famine! How will we ever DEAL with all this snow and rain! Aaaaaah! Jerry Brown’s head will spin off, his speech even more rapid and confused then ever before! Eeeeeyaaaaah, we’re all gonna dieeee!

Whatta buncha crap.

[cincinnati65]

The good news is that they can fly up to 100 miles before needing recharging.

[Oscar in Batangas]

Aren’t all those extension cords going to cause the stratosphere to capsize, or something??

H/T Hank Johnson

[simpson96]

Article originated in the UK sun, which makes the words “eco disaster” in the headline completely predictable.

[I want the USA back]

There are no hydrogen mines. Cows don’t fart hydrogen. It is obtained by breaking apart water into elemental oxygen and hydrogen. (What do they do with the oxygen? eh?).
Energy is required to break them apart. More energy than you get back when you burn that hydrogen in a plane. More energy is needed to cool it and compress it. And to keep it cool and compressed. Now if something goes wrong with the cooling and compression systems in an airborne plane, you’ll soon be praying, and it won’t be to the designers of this system.

There is no free energy. The obsession with “zero emissions” is foolish, because it deliberately refuses to talk about the emissions created when the initial energy is used.

Unless the whole process is powered by the Sun, in which case you have to count the energy used to produce the solar collectors, to maintain them, and to dispose of them when they are no longer useful.

Lastly, the product of the combustion in these planes is water vapor. Water vapor is a potent greenhouse gas.

Currently, emissions from airplanes actually cool the planet. So the whole argument is shot to pieces.

Don’t try to fool me.

[Jonty30]

Is Boeing building this plane?

It will be a hit, in the water.

[BBQToadRibs]

Takes an awful lot of fossil fuel energy to freeze hydrogen.

[Red Badger]

When this hydrogen liquid is mixed with oxygen in the engine there is a powerful reaction, which results in a lot of energy that can be converted into electricity to drive an electric propulsion system.

Like the Challenger......................

[Telepathic Intruder]

It only involves a little child slave labor in Nigeria. Much better than CO2.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

NASA's new administrator, Jim Bridenstine, said that he knows Earth's climate is changing, and that humans the Sun contributes to it "in a major way,"

There. Fixed it.

[Sa-teef]

About the only time Americans would see these Brit rags in the past was in grocery store checkout lanes right next to the Inquirer, typically with headlines reading:

" I MET ELVIS IN THE AUTOMOTIVE SECTION OF WAL-MART AND NOW I'M HAVING HIS BABY"

They are trash pubs designed for unsophisticated, low IQ readers.

[fieldmarshaldj]

*hot hoaxer ping*