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Meghan and Harry's son is the first person ever with the right to become...US President [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | May 7, 2019 | Alexander Robertson

Posted on 05/07/2019 3:27:32 AM PDT by C19fan

The birth of Prince Harry and Meghan's baby boy has signalled the first time that a person has had the right to become both the British monarch and the US President. Baby Sussex is automatically a British citizen based on the Duke of Sussex's citizenship status and also due to being born in the UK. But assuming Meghan did not voluntarily give up her own US citizenship when she married Harry, which she was no required to do by law, the baby will also be granted American citizenship himself. The implication of being naturally-born citizen of the United States means Baby Sussex could one day run for office as US President.

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KEYWORDS: fakenews; foreignnational; royals; sussexual
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To: C19fan

Birther threads. Gotta love ‘em.


41 posted on 05/07/2019 5:35:21 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Sacajaweau

“Sorry.....Dual citizenship is not acceptable. The whole object of being a US Citizen is total loyalty to the country....AND....he is NOT a Natural Born citizen, i.e., born within the bounds of the United States.”

You are correct. Some people have a place to run to after screwing up the U.S.


42 posted on 05/07/2019 5:36:18 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: C19fan
HELL NO!!!

That is essentially what our founders said, and they had just risked everything they had to fight a bloody, costly and difficult war with the Crown in order to say it.

Today, only duplicitous anti-Americans would say otherwise and with predictable results, as we recently witnessed.

Unfortunately, as our nation veers to the left at an accelerating pace with the current crop of aspiring presidential candidates, we may again witness such predictable results

43 posted on 05/07/2019 5:50:46 AM PDT by frog in a pot (The U.S. Constitution: "Use it or lose it.")
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To: ml/nj

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/09/supreme-court-justice-scalia-believes-natural-born-citizenship-is-jus-soli/


44 posted on 05/07/2019 5:57:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 9YearLurker
Maybe we could just turn the tables and make the UK a US colony.

What a hoot if we could tax them without representation!

45 posted on 05/07/2019 6:12:15 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Mueller Report: Donald Trump is the most uncorrupted President in US history!)
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To: sodpoodle
"Nobody questioned his American citizenship or his eligibility to be President"

Actually, the question was raised, but McCain immediately released all records, unlike Obama, who paid millions of dollars to keep his records sealed and secret.

I don't know what the truth is, but all the facts concerning this matter should be made public. The fact that Democrat operatives continue to keep these records concealed, as though there were something to hide, continues to raise suspicions.

46 posted on 05/07/2019 6:22:27 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Mueller Report: Donald Trump is the most uncorrupted President in US history!)
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To: C19fan

Or King but not both.


47 posted on 05/07/2019 6:23:59 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: Baldwin77

As we find out definitively that the Usurper was actually born in Kenya without a doubt, they will need this sort of thing to obfuscate the legal reality that we had a US President who wasn’t eligible to be elected in the first place.


48 posted on 05/07/2019 6:35:54 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: ml/nj
While 'natural born' in the terms natural-born Subject, and natural-born Citizen may mean the same thing Subject DOES NOT mean the same thing as Citizen. That makes a BIG difference. A monarch would want as many people as possible, anyone born in his realm including those not specifically mentioned in positive law, to have fealty towards him. On the other hand a country would not want to extend the protections of Citizenship out to those not loyal to it.


So 'natural born' may mean the same in both terms - according to natural law (without positive law) at the time of birth it does not have anything to do with the location of birth. The location of birth is more relevant to the subject of the term Subject or Citizen. While natural law governing who is a Subject may want to include as many as possible, natural law governing the second does not.


And a point missed by many of those who equate 'citizen at birth' with 'natural born citizen', the prince in this story IS NOT a 'US Citizen at birth', if they do not fill out a Form FS-240 and submit it to the US embassy he DOES NOT become a US Citizen. That alone is proof positive that those born in a foreign country to US Citizen parent(s) become US Citizens as the result of Positive US law and not Natural law and are therefore not 'natural born Citizens' of the US.
49 posted on 05/07/2019 6:57:11 AM PDT by MMaschin (The difference between strategy and tactics!)
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To: C19fan

Uh no it can’t.


50 posted on 05/07/2019 7:21:04 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Sacajaweau
That's nice but it ignores the meaning of the words at the time the Constitution was written.

(And BTW, the only time I attended a Supreme Court Argument Scalia characterized errors on the part of the government as "foot faults." I wanted to jump up and scream, "Et tu Antonin," but I knew that all those guards standing amongst us peons would have squashed me like a bug.)

ML/NJ

51 posted on 05/07/2019 7:21:11 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: RinaseaofDs
As we find out definitively that the Usurper was actually born in Kenya without a doubt

The notion that Obama's pregnant teenage mother traveled by herself from comfortable modern Hawaii halfway around the world to a mud hut in Kenya where she had a baby, returned with baby to Hawaii, and then partook in a complicated ruse to make it appear that's where her child was born has got to be one of the most idiotic, retarded conspiracies in history.

52 posted on 05/07/2019 7:26:10 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: C19fan

If that is so, which it is not, the Winston Churchill had a right to run for President in the USA, as his mother was American. AND, she was part Indian, more so than Pocahontas Warren!


53 posted on 05/07/2019 7:33:16 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: C19fan

If Meghan still has her US citizenship, then her child would be considered Natural Born the same as a soldier, diplomat posted overseas or a US citizen who gives birth in a foreign country, ala Ted Cruz.


54 posted on 05/07/2019 7:38:06 AM PDT by newmomster
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

When Churchill was born US law did not grant automatic citizenship to child born abroad by a US mother married to a non-American.


55 posted on 05/07/2019 7:38:32 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: MMaschin

The form does not convey citizenship, which exists regardless of the form. The form is a record of the birth of a US citizen overseas to prevent future complications.

Female US citizens overseas did not pass citizenship to their children with a foreign father until after 1934. Citizenship followed the father, as per the original intent of the Constitution.


56 posted on 05/07/2019 7:42:59 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: Sacajaweau

It is not a matter of dual citizenship being “acceptable” or not.

Dual citizenship occurs when the laws of two different countries both confer citizenship on a single person.

The child’s mother is an American Citizen. The child automatically inherits her Citizenship. The child holds it by right and it can never be taken, making the child a natural born American Citizen.

It could only be renounced by the citizen child after he tuns 18 and only by deliberately doing so. Even if his mother later becomes a UK citizen and renounces her American citizenship she can’t renounce it for the child.

At the same time the child is the son of a UK citizen and a member of the Royal Family and in the line of succession to the throne, making the child a UK citizen at birth, again a citizen by right and under UK law that citizenship cannot be taken.

In the case of US law, the only thing that matters is if the child meets the requirements to be a citizen: either birth on American soil, or birth overseas to an American citizen parent.

The fact that UK law may make the child also a UK citizen is irrelevant to US law. And the Congress has no authority to take a persons citizenship if born an American just because another countries laws may make them a citizen of that country too.


57 posted on 05/07/2019 7:49:50 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area.arare)
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To: C19fan
This logic would also make Netanyahu eligible for the US Presidency.
58 posted on 05/07/2019 7:58:38 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: .44 Special

She didn’t accept the title of Duchess. Her husband was made a Duke, by Letters Patent issued by the Queen.

As the wife of a Duke she gets the courtesy title of “Duchess”. The style of “Royal Highness” is not a title either but a Form of Address granted to certain members of the Royal Family meeting certain requirements.

Neither of these are legally titles of nobility under US law.


59 posted on 05/07/2019 8:04:48 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area.arare)
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To: vetvetdoug

Well, no. Neither of Netanyahu’s parents were American citizens and he was not born here. At least that much is unambiguous.


60 posted on 05/07/2019 8:07:34 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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