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The Real Reason Boeing New Plane crashed.
https://www.wimp.com/the-real-reason-boeings-new-plane-crashed-twice/ ^

Posted on 04/20/2019 2:59:37 PM PDT by Jonty30

This video explains really well.

I think Boeing is going to take a loss on this plane big time.


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KEYWORDS: boeing; corruption; crimes; piloterror
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To: Grimmy

Excellent point. . .and don’t forget their ability to conduct routine and complex maintenance and repairs.


21 posted on 04/20/2019 3:53:12 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Grimmy

Seems I missed the last part where you did point out maintenance and repair. . .apology


22 posted on 04/20/2019 3:55:25 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka

Correct. The pilots for both crashed planes made multiple mistakes.


23 posted on 04/20/2019 3:57:08 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: Hulka

Thanks for the summary. That’s pretty much what we were hearing from the third day. It was a known problem and they had a work-around but not everybody got the memo.


24 posted on 04/20/2019 3:57:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Capitalism produces EVERYTHING Socialists/Communists/Democratic-Socialists wish to "redistribute.")
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To: Hulka

No need to apologize.

The maint and repair is double important so extra mentions.


25 posted on 04/20/2019 3:57:45 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: hecticskeptic

There was nothing new in the video. We knew from the third day it was a known problem, they had a workaround, but not everybody got the memo.

Posting old news as new news is fake news.


26 posted on 04/20/2019 3:58:31 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Capitalism produces EVERYTHING Socialists/Communists/Democratic-Socialists wish to "redistribute.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Exactly... which is why there was no point in putting 50 words together to explaining what was in the video. It was just helpful in understanding what was already known because it provided an animation for it.


27 posted on 04/20/2019 4:02:59 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: hecticskeptic

I don’t need any “help” understanding something I already understand.


28 posted on 04/20/2019 4:05:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Capitalism produces EVERYTHING Socialists/Communists/Democratic-Socialists wish to "redistribute.")
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To: Jonty30

Those Planes need to be recalled permanently and Boeing swamp drained.


29 posted on 04/20/2019 4:05:29 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: TexasGator
Happened to me. Put the car in neutral, pulled over and turned it off. No big deal.

Tougher to pull over in a 737. ;)

30 posted on 04/20/2019 4:09:22 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Jonty30

The active angle of attack sensor was sheared off, they think bird strike. If the video doesn’t mention that it’s not worth watching.

That information was from Aviation Week two weeks ago.


31 posted on 04/20/2019 4:09:41 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: TexasGator

The bottom line is that the plane (the MAX) needed to be fully certified, not “recertified”. Recerts when only a minor change was made. They lied and pretended that only a small change had been made (which is why the did’t detail the changes in their manuals or require full training for pilots. Certification takes much longer than to re-certify because they wanted to get the plane into the market. In other words they murdered several hundred people. Signed: a 30+ year aviation engineer (contract and now retired) (many years with Boeing and Airbus).


32 posted on 04/20/2019 4:10:13 PM PDT by tbdavis108
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To: Jonty30

Plus they ran the engines at 98% of takeoff power, never backed them off.


33 posted on 04/20/2019 4:10:48 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Teacher317

“Tougher to pull over in a 737. ;) “

The point is a car is not a plane?

The point was that qualified pilots would recognize the problem and take appropriate actions.

Also, don’t fly third-world airlines.

They skimp on pilots, maintenance and purchases.


34 posted on 04/20/2019 4:12:49 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: tbdavis108

You don’t know what you are talking about.


35 posted on 04/20/2019 4:13:56 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

The point was that I had a mildly clever comment and had to share. Your assessment of the issues and the crashes is spot on, in my opinion.


36 posted on 04/20/2019 4:14:15 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: TexasGator

SO what’s right????? PLease, enlighten all of us with your brilliance.


37 posted on 04/20/2019 4:18:56 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Jonty30
That was a good video and had an interesting comment on the 737 Max problem.

But, of course, that isn't enough to conclude that what is presented in the video is a truly accurate statement on the problem. It is just one video and for all we know the case made in the video was developed directly or indirectly by Airbus.

In other words, the case presented in the video may be the gospel truth...or it may not be.

If I managed an investment portfolio which contained a big chuck of Boeing, I would send that video ASAP to my top analyist and ask him to get an opinion from several of the best aerospace engineers who are familiar with this situation.

We don't have that luxury but the stock market will tell us shortly if new dire conclusions have been reached.

38 posted on 04/20/2019 4:19:39 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Hulka
Yeah. . .and turning off the MCAS resulted in the third-world “pilots” discovering they can’t fly. . .

If so, Boeing is still responsible for the safety of passengers around the world who don't have the luxury of flying planes piloted only by American pilots.

My wife was on that very flight no., same 737-8 model, just a few months before (not necessarily the same aircraft). Ethiopian Air was the only airline that could meet her schedule.

So, should she demand an American pilot, or not fly around the world to promote American values and legal system in sh**hole nations that desperately need her help?
39 posted on 04/20/2019 4:23:10 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: Grimmy
For safety sake, I don’t believe a country should be sold a vehicle they can’t design and make for themselves.

If it’s beyond their ability to design and manufacture, it’s beyond their ability to maintain and operate.

So the buyer country contracts with professionals from another country who are best capable of maintaining and operating the aircraft the way they were designed.

40 posted on 04/20/2019 4:23:33 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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