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Why are men “afraid” of commitment?
A Voice For Men ^ | April 13, 2019 | John Davis

Posted on 04/18/2019 9:34:05 AM PDT by rickmichaels

When the media “reports” that men are “afraid” of commitment, it’s a continuation of a 50 year trend to mock and disparage men for their reproductive choices.

Men aren’t “afraid” of commitment. When men walk away from “commitment” and marriage, they are making intelligent choices. Fear doesn’t enter into men’s minds when they walk away from women in our “modern” culture.

There was once a time when marriage was an honorable institution. It was not that long ago.

As mankind rose from primitive savagery, to civilizing the world, men were able to bring art, beauty, truth and goodness to the human condition. Marriage was vital to the stability that permitted these advances in humanity.

Marriage was a balanced set of cultural traditions and values in which men and women supported each other, assumed gendered roles that encouraged them to support each other, and, provided a means for men and women to enhance their lives through the synergy of mutual care, respect, responsibility and knowledge for and about each other.

Those days are long gone.

Marriage is no longer an honorable institution. It is simply a device of the neo-Marxist state to exploit men.

Do you think that is an exaggeration?

Let’s ask some straight questions.

What benefits does marriage offer a man?

The answer is that marriage offers nothing to men. At one time, men could enjoy trusting a woman with his love and sexual feelings. Current government regulation, however, has, virtually demonized and criminalized every aspect of men’s feelings and sexuality in, and outside of marriage.

At one time, Men could count on marriages lasting a lifetime. This gave him, his wife and his children stability and the incentive to work together, as a family, for long term benefits and gains.

Now, women file 80% of divorces, within about 8 years of marriage, use the biased and oppressive family courts to strip a man of his children, his life savings, and leave him to twist in the wind without a support network of any kind. Our laws and family court judges are designed to encourage women to get a divorce, alienate the children from their Father’s protection, and, exploit men for the convenience and enrichment of the neo-marxist state . . .

Men are dying from suicide at six times the rate of women in some age categories. We know that one of the reasons is the man-hating (misandry) that saturates our institutions (law, education, military, religion, etc.), and, that the other is that a man loses everything in most marriages. To meet draconian government regulation of marriage, a man must abandon his personal support network of friends, and, when he is divorced, and impressed into the service of the state to pay child support, he no longer has the time or energy to form personal support networks of friends.

Men walk away from marriage and commitment with women out of intellect and common sense choice. “Fear” has nothing to do with it.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: drivel; family; feminism; genderwars; hoax; mgtow; psychobabble; psychology; pua; redpill
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The courts have the power, backed up by police. Facing financial ruin and no-consequence betrayal in this divorce-crazy society, I can see why many men are wising up and checking out of the game. The deck is too stacked against them. It’s not what the Creator wanted for us, but that’s true about much of what America does now.


161 posted on 04/18/2019 2:34:19 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus (The Truth does not require our agreement.)
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To: DesertRhino

Thanks Desert,

It was SWEDISH Women...but yes, it’s a mindset that I had since when I was in college at ESU. We had women who literally DESPISED MEN [called us every name in the book and literally hated us for having an appendage], and so no, I wouldn’t risk injury or jail time to protect any of them. If they’re so tough, they can FIGHT OFF the immigrant gang rapists on their own, especially if they were the ones who invited them to set camp in my country.

I think that I’ve battled this one before. She wants men to suck up to a feminist-run society, but demands no pushback. Sorry, but we do RESPOND, as one can see from many of the earlier posts. In my case, I’ve made clear to my boys to NEVER marry a girl raised in the United States or Western Europe...just too damn risky. Get one from the Old Country, there are literally BILLIONS of girls available and willing to be FANTASTIC WIVES...no need for them to bother with our spoiled brats.


162 posted on 04/18/2019 2:51:06 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: rickmichaels
I think that both parties (males and females) do need to work on their relationship, my parents were married for 55 years, before my dad passed away from cancer. He died on their anniversary. Me married twice, and Mrs Deplorable and I work on our marriage.

My first marriage was Hell. If I didn't call her while at work, she'd be mad. 5 years in she did the best thing to me ever. She wanted out of the marriage, and I did it. Most of my assets were in my LLC, so she couldn't touch it. (Accountant and my lawyer told me to).

Mrs. Deplorable and I still have dates...

163 posted on 04/18/2019 2:59:52 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

and your point?


164 posted on 04/18/2019 3:07:22 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Mr.Unique
Did a sixth grader right this?

*write

(Most kids in the sixth grade know the difference.)

165 posted on 04/18/2019 3:10:41 PM PDT by rickmichaels (I shouldn't have to press 1 for English)
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To: BobL

Bullsh*t I want men to suck up to feminists. I’ve been on record here that I do not like modern feminists or their 2nd or 3rd wave although admire the old suffrage movement as exemplified by men like John Stuart Mill. Look him up.

What I don’t like is vulgar and disgusting comments from bitter guys who’ve ended up in divorce courts and blame every single thing on their ex-wives. Or creeps who use these threads to talk dirty. And you did make a disgusting comment on SWEDISH men and women.

Now get back to your Q files.


166 posted on 04/18/2019 3:12:40 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I’ll never forget the freeper here who said that his ex-daughter-in-law was taking his son to the cleaners over “a small indiscretion.” You can’t make this stuff up!


167 posted on 04/18/2019 3:14:57 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Thank you for that post. After working with abused women for a while, I have a difficult time reading these FR “all women are evil/crazy” threads. The men’s posts make me want to vomit.


168 posted on 04/18/2019 3:42:19 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Jeremiah 1:5 - "Before I formed thee ... I knew thee.")
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To: MayflowerMadam

Thank you, Madam! If more women would post on these endless threads, I think the guys would retreat to their safe rooms. Or, maybe, the mods would pay more attention.


169 posted on 04/18/2019 4:03:52 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: rickmichaels
i suppose losing half of everything you have and maybe seeing your kids a couple days a month might have something to do with it...
170 posted on 04/18/2019 4:06:57 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: rickmichaels
three scariest words in the english language, I'M NOT HAPPY!
171 posted on 04/18/2019 4:11:58 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: miss marmelstein

“and your point?”
_________________________________________

No point. I was commenting on your post 96, “I don’t like these huge weddings with bachelor parties and bachelorette parties.” Your post jarred a few memories about destination weddings my NY relatives told me about.


172 posted on 04/18/2019 4:18:03 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (President Trump is right! The media IS the enemy of the people!)
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To: rickmichaels

I was not afraid of commitment. I wanted a committed relationship.

The church girls I knew wanted the Bad Boys, not a (”nice but boring”) Good Guy like me.

Since I was a devout Christian, and served on church staff, a woman who did not profess faith was not an option.

Some of those churched women are now on their second or third marriage.

One went from the frying pan to the fireplace to the incinerator.


173 posted on 04/18/2019 4:27:09 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: miss marmelstein
"A small indiscretion" Is that like a little bit pregnant? 😆 These guys crack me up.
174 posted on 04/18/2019 4:34:06 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: umgud

22k,
Ouch,,!
Kinda dampens range time.


175 posted on 04/18/2019 5:20:30 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: faithhopecharity; caww
Whatever this “American social disease” is, it is catching and it spreads very quickly

I call it getting Americanized. I have never seen a case, where it DID NOT happen. Foreign born women, generally make good wives, if they remain in their own country, but for the most part, it’s not a good idea to bring them to America. They change. I am sure there are exceptions to the rule, I just haven’t seen any personally.

176 posted on 04/18/2019 5:58:25 PM PDT by Mark17 (What, exactly, was the "only evil continually," that was going on in the days of Noah?)
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To: Yaelle
Yep. It’s sad it happens that way too. I assume you are paying attention to the NHL playoffs too? 😁
177 posted on 04/18/2019 6:04:22 PM PDT by Mark17 (What, exactly, was the "only evil continually," that was going on in the days of Noah?)
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To: Mark17

Foreign born women are better left in their own country in this day and age.


178 posted on 04/18/2019 6:17:27 PM PDT by caww
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To: RatRipper

A Gutted Fish,,,

Perfect Analogy.


179 posted on 04/18/2019 6:23:05 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: raygunfan

Dude,
That sucks,,,


180 posted on 04/18/2019 6:27:06 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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