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Can Cutting Carbs Actually Throw Your Heart Out of Whack?
Runner's World ^ | March 22, 2019 | Selene Yaeger, Bicycling US

Posted on 03/23/2019 9:03:01 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: ImpBill

I know a woman who had out of control diabetes. She took 2 medications plus insulin and was still not regulating. She did the high fat, high protein diet and was able to slowly come off all medications. She did find that she could eat no pork.

She’s been good for over a year now.


21 posted on 03/23/2019 10:15:49 PM PDT by tiki
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To: ImpBill
Yes. Virta Health
22 posted on 03/23/2019 10:16:03 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Skywise

You’re going to cite other ‘studies’ to reinforce your own bias? And without references, of course, right? Why are you ignoring the other studies which show that keto is demonstrably-harmful?

There is scientific merit in this study to be balanced with others which throw water on the so-called ‘keto fire’. Keto is Atkins redux, plain & simple. The long term effects thereof will, ultimately, destroy the myth forever, but not before millions are potentially irreparably-harmed.

Keto has been around for a century and staff doctors in a hospital setting had trouble keeping their epileptic child patients in ketosis; what makes you think you can do better? The psychological feedback of a scale swing, ignoring other factors? The fact is that most people who engage keto are incredibly-hypocritical, failing to address other causes of inflammation.

If a person engages keto for the purpose of weight loss, they lost the battle for health before they began. Period.

Fool’s errand, likely to express symptoms of impaired health and/or disease.

IMHO, after THOUSANDS of hours of writing & research, btw.


23 posted on 03/23/2019 10:17:06 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: albie

There is a difference between cutting excessive carbs and keto.

A BIG difference. HUGE. We’re talking GALACTIC.

There is a scientific reason not cited in the article or the paper regarding why those engaging extreme low-carb diets such as keto exhibit symptoms of impaired health.

I’m not giving the answer for free, but I hope that you have found balance, because by engaging a restrictive diet for 2 decades could prove irreparably-harmful in the end.

I do not suggest promoting what you’re doing as ‘low carb’ and - in the sense of the article and the paper - promoting keto/paleo/atkins without citing EXACTLY what you’re doing.


24 posted on 03/23/2019 10:23:41 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Interesting. Weak conclusion. Confusing. Low carbs means high electrolytes and health. Afib is genetic and easily managed by kepo diet.


25 posted on 03/23/2019 10:24:45 PM PDT by Falconspeed
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To: SaintDismas
This is such crap. More and more people are adopting the Keto way of eating and it’s probaby already cutting into the bottom line for the food industry and the medical establishment. This is a sick joke

There has been a recent campaign with things such as keto crotch, keto bloat and on and on. None. Absolutely none are scientifically verified and contrary to the mountains of evidence on the benefits of keto. There has been one connection in all of these preposterous claims spread by numerous "news" sources. People went to the sources and found Weight Watchers advertising with each article posting. It appears they are going under.

Pure insanity. We are approaching well over 65% metabolic derangement in the US because of a 60 year old fad diet called SAD. A diet rich in processed processed foods of refined seed oils and corn syrup.
26 posted on 03/23/2019 10:28:08 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: ImpBill; All

Cutting carbs should help with diabetes if one is eating healthy natural non-carbs. However, if you are being treated for diabetes you should coordinate with your doctor if you are on medication as changing your diet radically will also change the amount of medication needed. If your doctor is not sympathetic to this find one who is both knowledgeable about carbs and nutrition as well as medication management with diabetes. If neither of those options is available, then very slow gradual change in diet might be the way to go.

Personally, after my husband died at home after a long illness, I was at least 40 pounds overweight and had only lost 10 pounds after counting calories and restricting food somewhat for a year. I happened upon Dr. Atkins and his low carb diet method. I began following the induction phase of his diet, and in 4 months had lost another 18 pounds. After that the loss slowed down and at 8 pounds above what I considered my ideal pre pregnancy weight I stopped paying much attention to carbs. After several years I have crept back up to about 20 lbs above my ideal weight, and at 80 years, I figure that is probably my stable weight. Two years ago I had a case of salmonella and lost 5 lbs. in less than a week, so I suspect a little extra weight gives me a cushion in case of illness, and I am fully active and otherwise healthy. I mostly eat low carb veggies, some meat and dairy, some whole grain carbs, a little fresh fruit, occasional sweet treats, and many supplements. I eat organic and raw food frequently. I have an annual checkup and blood work.


27 posted on 03/23/2019 10:28:31 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: logi_cal869

“There is a scientific reason not cited in the article or the paper regarding why those engaging extreme low-carb diets such as keto exhibit symptoms of impaired health.

I’m not giving the answer for free...”

Get bent. I ain’t paying you for it.


28 posted on 03/23/2019 10:28:34 PM PDT by be-baw
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To: SaintDismas

No: The sick joke is your hysterical defense of a desperate overreach of people seeking solutions to bad behavior.

Free advice: If you’re on keto as it’s outlined, stop immediately and adopt a low protein, high vegetable diet. The average non-athletic male under 200lbs only needs a 1/4 pound of protein per day to maintain.

Fiber is key for reasons I’m not going to elaborate. Organic veggies, drop the non-organic wheat, but not grains entirely. And by God stop eating restaurant food.

Or don’t and show us your pom-poms for keto (and all the references backing up your statements).


29 posted on 03/23/2019 10:29:41 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We already know that yo-yo dieting puts a strain on the heart so this is plausible, but the focus is on the weight loss not the cutting out carbs.

More junk science.


30 posted on 03/23/2019 10:29:46 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Trump is Making the Media Grate Again)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
I love the smell of vegetarian BS in the morning.

31 posted on 03/23/2019 10:33:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (this tagline space is now available)
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To: be-baw

Ben Dover, not bebaw.

I wasn’t asking for money JA. I don’t have the time to preach to those who won’t F$*#%NG listen anyway. Do you know what ‘metaphor’ means?

Enjoy your heart attack, troll. You respond just like a lib.


32 posted on 03/23/2019 10:33:51 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: b4me; Secret Agent Man; All

Regarding dog and cat food, you have to remember that wolves and wild cats heat whole animals including stomachs and intestines. Therefore, the kinds of food the animals were eating become part of their nutritional needs. What do deer, antelope and bison eat; what do rabbits, birds, and mice eat. Often it is grains, grass and seeds.


33 posted on 03/23/2019 10:36:04 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: logi_cal869
😂😂😂 Wow. If you were my doctor you would be FIRED. I have been keto for almost 2 years, and healthier than I’ve ever been. Slim, energetic, and weaned off my BP pills. I don’t need your advice. And stop being so hostile to me I don’t even know you. Calm down. How’s bout I do me and you do you? K?
34 posted on 03/23/2019 10:36:41 PM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: logi_cal869

“I don’t have the time to preach to those who won’t F$*#%NG listen anyway.”

Good. You have nothing useful to say anyway. Bye bye.


35 posted on 03/23/2019 10:37:33 PM PDT by be-baw
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To: logi_cal869
Keto has been around for a century and staff doctors in a hospital setting had trouble keeping their epileptic child patients in ketosis; what makes you think you can do better? The psychological feedback of a scale swing, ignoring other factors? The fact is that most people who engage keto are incredibly-hypocritical, failing to address other causes of inflammation.

Absolute BS and dishonesty. The original KETO diet for epilepsy was based on drinking mostly processed oils. THAT IS NOT THE SCIENCE TODAY.

The science today is low carb with medium chain triglycerides, particularly caprylic and capric. The dietary fats are required to boost peroxisomes VLCFA conversion to decanoic acid for support of glial cell and neuronal (particularly mitochondria) metabolism.

Where the hell are you getting your information?
36 posted on 03/23/2019 10:38:33 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yep.


37 posted on 03/23/2019 10:41:09 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: gleeaikin

Well i have special knowledge of the prey animals. they are grazers and designed to extract the max nutrients out,of low energy foods like grass hays and often have guts more like cows and other ruminants to do so. but they have been designed to work best on this type of food intake. their guts are more delicate than humans/ominvores straight shot through difestive systems.


38 posted on 03/23/2019 10:46:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: logi_cal869
I wasn’t asking for money JA. I don’t have the time to preach to those who won’t F$*#%NG listen anyway. Do you know what ‘metaphor’ means?

Here is just one recent paper you should read and please quit giving medical advice.

New insights into the mechanisms of the ketogenic diet

I have many more if you are truly interested in learning.
39 posted on 03/23/2019 10:49:05 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

Oh I get what you’re saying PA Engineer. Somebody’s ox is being gored alright. Follow the money it’s alwys about the money no doubt.

It just amazes me how hateful some folks are about this. I eat one meal a day and pretty much fast the rest of the time, One has to make sure though that you get enough calories, but I manage with 2 BPC’s per day, which contains half a stick of butter! Even my fellow keto tribe peeps thinks that’s a bit extreme, but, I am NEVER hungry. I am a thin woman again and pretty darn proud of it. But that’s secondary. My body thanks me, my health is awesome.


40 posted on 03/23/2019 10:55:15 PM PDT by SaintDismas
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