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America gets its ‘a@@ handed to it’ in WW3 simulations
Daily mail ^ | 11MAR19 | By Megan Sheets For Dailymail.com

Posted on 03/23/2019 6:15:25 AM PDT by vannrox

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America gets its ‘a@@ handed to it’ in WW3 simulations: U.S. forces are defeated by Russia and China in almost all scenarios, analysts warn

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KEYWORDS: americahater; antiamericantroll; china; cyberterrorism; global; ibtz; military; postedseveraltimes; railguns; randcorporation; redchina; russia; simulation; trump; war; ww3; wwiii; zot
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To: vannrox

One, it is well known that the armed forces have problems with worn out equipment, so anything that can be done to make sure our warriors have the basics for fighting is a good thing. Two, would Russia or China want to win a conventional war with America? Between the proverbial gun behind every blade of grass and the inner city gangs, they couldn’t keep the US secure from across an ocean if they tried.


21 posted on 03/23/2019 6:40:25 AM PDT by yawningotter
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To: Joe 6-pack

Even if eliminating the “touchy-feely sensitivity training and GLBTQXYZ outreach and support programs” and the trannie coddling didn’t save a single dime, that alone would do wonders for military morale and capability. Getting the mission back to “breaking things and killing people” and sacking the feather merchants would restore our once-great military at zero cost.


22 posted on 03/23/2019 6:40:36 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Leaning Right

What they did to the B-25’s Mitchell’s that bombed Japan.

Works great unless you get fighters on your tail.


23 posted on 03/23/2019 6:41:58 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: usconservative

That said, War will not follow a computer simulation.

Now will climate.


24 posted on 03/23/2019 6:42:20 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: SaveFerris

LOL...yeah, another classic.

A few bosses ago, our new SVP of Sales posted “Change and Grow” outside his office. It became the mantra. He was very energetic. No matter how much he preached “Change” we really didn’t, the products were outdated, and we continued to shrink. He lasted a bit more than a year.


25 posted on 03/23/2019 6:45:05 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
“Finding the cracks and fixing them” is usually a Herculean effort and, in my experience, usually delivers nothing.

In I.T. we call this "root cause analysis" and done properly and well, usually delivers amazing results. I'm one of the people left at the large multi-national bank I work for that happens to excel in it due to my 35+ years in the field and actually liking that type of work. You'd be amazed at how sometimes the most simple, basic changes deliver big results.

There are also times where herculean efforts are required to "fix things" which involve process, technology and occasionally swapping people out to make the process changes required.

As someone noted above, people tend to get stuck in the "we've always done it this way" rut where change becomes far more difficult than it needs to be. In those cases, getting those people out of the way is required. Hate doing it, but if someone refuses to change, off they go to another system, project, or out of the bank entirely if necessary.

I kind of see this entire military exercise in the same sort of light. Of course, I have zero military experience so I could be 1,000% wrong. (Wouldn't be the first time, ask my GF.)

26 posted on 03/23/2019 6:45:15 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: vannrox

It seems the simulation assumes nukes won’t be used. Using nukes against key enemy military targets is likely a key part of our counter attack strategy and bolsters the capabilities of our conventional forces.


27 posted on 03/23/2019 6:46:06 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: Texas Fossil
That said, War will not follow a computer simulation.

True. Who was it that said something like "the best laid plans go to waste once the first bullet is fired" or something like that?

28 posted on 03/23/2019 6:46:34 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: chris37
As CiC, I believe that Trump could potentially win a war.

With anyone else from our “two parties” as CiC, no. Our politicians are worthless, and none of them are leaders.

I agree Trump would be a better CiC, however I disagree that Lib politicians could not successfully command our military during a war.

I believe the difference between Trump as CIC and say Bernie is in the number of lives lost.

Democrats are ruthless people. The lives of individuals are meaningless to them. To the Democrats it would be win at any cost. Lives on either side are of no consequences.

With a Democrat in charge of a full on war expect the eligible draft age to be reach the 50+ range.

29 posted on 03/23/2019 6:48:14 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: ScottfromNJ

Nukes won’t be used. They weren’t used in Korea or Vietnam for good reasons. You better pray we never cross that threshold.


30 posted on 03/23/2019 6:48:19 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: vannrox

Rand = Total Hogwash. They somehow know that spending $750 billion annually just isn’t enough, but $774 Billion would be? This study implies massive waste in US defense spending, if the US can’t beat countries that spend a tiny percentage of what we do. Either fix the gaps by repurposing 3% out of the vast amount of waste and theft, or cut the defense budget by 80% if we are going to lose anyway. We can go back to triumphing over Grenada.


31 posted on 03/23/2019 6:48:21 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: coloradan

War is a racket.


32 posted on 03/23/2019 6:48:26 AM PDT by real saxophonist (One side has guns and training. Other side's primary concern is 'gender identity'. Who's gonna win?)
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To: vannrox

British wishful thinking


33 posted on 03/23/2019 6:48:52 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: SaveFerris
Don’t tell that to the local idiots I worked for years ago. In my whole career I never met a group of people so incredibly ignorant. It was like finding a lost tribe on a remote island that hadn’t changed since the 1600’s.

**SNORT!** Been there, done that earlier in my career. I actually once heard "we won't have a disaster if you simply don't let the systems go down!"

Told me everything I needed to know about the company I was working for. Found a different role OUTSIDE of that company as fast as I could. Their plans were to simply work me to death and then blame me if something went wrong.

Nope. Not. Gonna. Do. It.

34 posted on 03/23/2019 6:51:39 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Like you, I have zero military experience, but the military was long known as the organization most resistant to change. That’s why the adage “they are always fighting the last war.”

What’s amazing is how fast the military got on board with all the social experiments and perversions when, on the face of it, they did nothing but cause morale to deteriorate and offered no upside.


35 posted on 03/23/2019 6:52:02 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: usconservative

War III breaks out. First five minutes we take out leaders of China and Putin with nuclear blasts . Game over.


36 posted on 03/23/2019 6:52:21 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121
War III breaks out. First five minutes we take out leaders of China and Putin with nuclear blasts . Game over.

Riiiight....

You Free Traitors™ like your nukes don't you?

37 posted on 03/23/2019 6:53:30 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yep, most places I was at it was a new slogan - at least during the 1990’s.

The hilarious thing was so many had the same dumb look on their face as they tried the same thing as places I’d been before did. They REALLY thought they were geniuses.

One favorite (not really) was their idea to get ONE guy to do the job THREE people would normally do.

And then pay them sub-market rates (low by at least 25%-33% or more if a consultant) and then micro-manage them.

When I laughingly told them that wouldn’t work or last even if they found somebody, I got the frowny-face.

No, it never happened. The company no longer exists because they made other, incredibly-stupid decisions, costing millions of dollars.

They eventually had to change the name. It will never recover to what it once way. They went liberal SJW and couldn’t figure out why their products weren’t selling.


38 posted on 03/23/2019 6:53:34 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: ScottfromNJ
Using nukes against key enemy military targets is likely a key part of our counter attack strategy and bolsters the capabilities of our conventional forces.

Cyber-war is where it's at. It's all about taking out the financial systems, power generation systems, water, interrupting food supplies, etc.. and making a country implode upon itself.

Of course a rogue country like Iran for example may change that, however our "war" with China and Russia is all cyber now. Anything using our military presence in other countries is nothing more than a physical show of force and IMO will not escalate beyond that.

39 posted on 03/23/2019 6:54:36 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: vannrox
Yeh, sure! 😆
40 posted on 03/23/2019 6:55:14 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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