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Montreal woman stunned to find her Walmart gift cards drained
CBC News ^ | March 4, 2019 | Leah Hendry

Posted on 03/04/2019 9:02:09 AM PST by rickmichaels

After receiving a set of Walmart gift cards before Christmas, Samantha Vandzura tucked them into a drawer for safekeeping while she went on vacation to Florida.

After returning to Montreal a few weeks later, Vandzura decided to use the cards to buy baby supplies and drove to a Walmart.

While at the checkout to pay, a cashier told a shocked Vandzura her cards, valued at $550, were already used and nearly drained of money.

One card was empty. The second had a balance of just over $4.

"I didn't even have my wallet with me," said Vandzura.

Flustered, she quickly headed to the customer service desk, where a receipt was printed off that showed the cards were used over two days at the end of December in Ontario, in Brampton and Thornhill.

Impossible, Vandzura said, as she had been in Florida at the time, more than 2,000 kilometres away.

She asked if the purchases were made in person or online, but customer service couldn't tell her.

"They told me that there was nothing that could be done."

Vandzura says she was then told the cards must have been lost or stolen.

"I told them, "That's impossible — they're here,'" says Vandzura, clutching the cards in her hand.

As soon as Vandzura got to her car, she called Walmart Canada's gift card department and got an automated response system.

She followed the automated instructions and scratched off the strip on the back of each card that covers the card's identification number and PIN, to enter that information into the system.

The strip, meant to protect Walmart's cards from fraud, was intact and did not appear to be tampered with, Vandzura said.

Unable to reach a person to speak to, Vandzura hung up and called Walmart Canada's customer service line.

"They basically just told me their policy is not to refund anything when it comes to gift cards."

Still hoping to get her money back, Vandzura filed a complaint and was told she would get a call back within 48 hours, but that call never came. So Vandzura kept calling every few days, only to be told her complaint had been sent to head office for "escalation."

Curious to see if other consumers were running into the same problem, Vandzura went online and found several stories similar to her own, in the U.S. — in Missouri, there's even a class-action lawsuit contending Walmart doesn't do enough to protect its gift cards from thieves.

After three weeks of getting what she describes as the runaround from Walmart, Vandzura reached out to CBC.

"To be honest, if it wasn't $550, I probably would have given up already," said Vandzura.

According to the Conseil Québécois de commerce du détail, Quebec's retail council, consumers in the province spent $245 million on gift cards last holiday season.

The council keeps no statistics on how much is lost to fraud.

Quebec's Office of Consumer Protection says it hasn't received any complaints.

With so few people reporting this type of fraud, the Montreal police service (SPVM) doesn't have a lot of statistics on gift card fraud.

However, the head of the SPVM's economic crimes unit, Cmdr. Dominique Côté, said fraud victims should call police.

It doesn't guarantee an investigation will be opened, but the information could help police determine if a certain sector is being targeted, he said. If the fraud is centres on a particular store, the police could also work with the merchant and check video cameras.

So how do fraudsters hack the cards?

- Typically, fraudsters grab a gift card off a display rack.

- They peel or scratch off the sticker on the back to get at the card's identification number and PIN.

- The sticker is then replaced with a new one and the card is put back on the display rack.

- The card is purchased, and the fraudster then checks to see when it is activated.

- As soon as the card is loaded with money, the fraudster wastes no time using it to buy items online.

Côté encourages consumers to have the cashier check over gift cards before they purchase them, to ensure there has been no tampering.

"That way, you will be sure your card is original and legitimate."

He says merchants can also do their part, by putting the cards behind the counter so they're only accessible to employees.

Walmart Canada told CBC News it issues and processes thousands of gift cards every day.

"The experience this customer has described is unusual," said Diane Medeiros, a spokesperson for the big-box retailer.

Medeiros says gift cards are only activated at the point of purchase by trained associates.

After a card is purchased, the customer is given a receipt that outlines its activation number and the amount of money on it.

Medeiros says the scratch surface protects the gift card's identification number and PIN.

CBC News asked Walmart how many gift cards were compromised or how much money is lost to gift card fraud, but Walmart refused to answer.

In a followup email, Medeiros would only say it takes customer concerns seriously.

"Walmart Canada will look at every instance on a case-by-case basis, and work with our customer to investigate any potential fraud and assist where possible," she said.

Shortly after CBC's inquiries to Walmart about Vandzura's experience, the Montrealer's cards were reissued for the full amount.

"I definitely believe that if CBC hadn't reached out to them, that I would have gone months without any advancement," says Vandzura, who is annoyed by what she describes as a wild goose chase.

She does not believe the big-box retailer is doing enough to protect its customers.

After her experience, she says, she won't use Walmart gift cards again, at least not until the company changes its policy on refunds.

She also believes they need to put the gift cards in a safer place. Her cards were bought off a rack, accessible to anyone, and not kept behind a counter, said Vandzura.

"That would ensure that no one, other than the person for whom it was intended, can have access to the information," Vandzura says.


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To: US_MilitaryRules

They’re a GREAT idea and a GREAT gift and I love getting them and not ONCE out of Hundreds and Hundreds of times was there any issue with any of them.

But I’ll bite.

Why do you find them to be a stupid idea?

Even better is buying them off of CardPool for up to 25 percent off their original value.


21 posted on 03/04/2019 9:36:47 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: rickmichaels
Purchased three Walmart gift cards only to find out later that only two of them actually had a balance. As it turned out, the two cards with a balance appeared on the receipt, while the one with no balance was not on the receipt (a different card was showing as the third card). The conclusion was that the cashier loaded up one card, then gave me a different one that had no balance and kept the card with a balance for himself. So, the moral is, always compare your receipt and the gift cards purchased to make sure that they match up (and pay attention to what your cashier is doing with the cards, as well).
22 posted on 03/04/2019 9:37:22 AM PST by Major Matt Mason
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To: rickmichaels

As soon as Vandzura got to her car, she called Walmart Canada’s gift card department and got an automated response system.

She followed the automated instructions and scratched off the strip on the back of each card that covers the card’s identification number and PIN, to enter that information into the system.

The strip, meant to protect Walmart’s cards from fraud, was intact and did not appear to be tampered with, Vandzura said.
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Ahh... if the strips covering the ID #s and the PINs were still intact....how in hell did she know the cards were drained? I SMELL A SCAMMING RAT.

But nice try, Samantha.


23 posted on 03/04/2019 9:37:23 AM PST by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: rickmichaels

WalMart could do a better job at fraud prevention. Some dude named Mohamed in Ohio got ahold of my online password. They shipped him a keyboard. I was able to cancel his next order which was for a laptop. Different name and state? No problem - we’ll ship the order out!


24 posted on 03/04/2019 9:37:53 AM PST by utax
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To: Bubba_Leroy

I put card inside a Xmas stocking. The envelope was received at front desk tracked and never received by my kid. Despite insurance post office and Wal-Mart would do nothing. It was spent at a store 10 miles away. Only thing I do is send money via Wal-Mart. Did that for Houston hurricane victim.


25 posted on 03/04/2019 9:40:38 AM PST by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Yep, sounds fishy, but she did pull it off, since she got another $550 out of them. With stories like this one, Walmart will find a lot more people ‘claiming’ to have empty gift cards.


26 posted on 03/04/2019 9:41:24 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

I put card inside a Xmas stocking. The envelope was received at front desk tracked and never received by my kid. Despite insurance post office and Wal-Mart would do nothing. It was spent at a store 10 miles away. Only thing I do is send money via Wal-Mart. Did that for Houston hurricane victim.


27 posted on 03/04/2019 9:41:28 AM PST by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: 1Old Pro

Cash is the ultimate gift card. Not confined to any particular store for one thing.


28 posted on 03/04/2019 9:42:28 AM PST by xp38
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To: CharlesWayneCT
There was one confusing thing about the story. She says she went to use the cards, and found that they were already empty.

THEN, it says she scratched off the codes to enter them.

How did she attempt to use them without scratching off the code?

You only need the code for on line, telephonic and mail order purchases. In person purchases only require you to swipe the card.

29 posted on 03/04/2019 9:43:30 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: All

The gift card theft was an inside job........stats indicate much of retailing theft is by employees.


30 posted on 03/04/2019 9:46:55 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: AlaskaErik

Thats right. When i waited on the service line at store, they were able to tell me what store the card was used at and zero balance. I had the original purchase receipt. Never again. I recommend using the Wal-Mart cash transfers. I didn’t know it at the time. My kid in Fla had no food for xmas.


31 posted on 03/04/2019 9:53:03 AM PST by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
A lot of people just give up.

I've had a few gift cards "not work" in recent years, typically a card for some store, restaurant or whatever that I got at Christmas. Most recently, I had an Outback card a couple of Christmases ago and my wife and I went there with it around May of last year. The waitress came back and said it wouldn't go through. So I just had her put the whole bill on my credit card. I wasn't going to bother with it.

It was an uncle who gave it to me but I wasn't going to be a dweeb about it and ring him up in the middle of May to tell him a card he gave me at Christmas didn't work. That's just so lame. So I let it go.

I'm sure there are many others in the same situation - that don't complain. That's probably why "hacking" these cards is such a big industry because so few victims show up to complain. The $550 in this article is an extreme example. Usually it's just a $25 to $50 gift card involved and most people couldn't be bothered.

BTW, the retailers and restaurants love gift cards. This is a real profit center for them. I believe about 20% of gift cards issued are never redeemed and all that cash goes right to the bottom line. Not sure how they account for that revenue but there must be a period of time, probably the end of their fiscal year, where they are able to move that unearned revenue to the profit line. Maybe there's an accountant here that can speak to that.

32 posted on 03/04/2019 9:59:19 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: rickmichaels

I keep getting emails notifying me that my Apple Store account has been charged huge sums for various items, like cell phones. I look at them and then delete them since I don’t have an Apple Store account.


33 posted on 03/04/2019 10:00:26 AM PST by Hootowl
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To: rickmichaels

Walmart’s customer service seems to be a roller coaster from year to year.

Many years ago, if an item rang up wrong at the register, they would give it to you. Then after a few years they changed it to $5.00, then $3.00 then nothing.

I sometimes return an item to the store and generally have no problem.

The phone customer service is problematical. Generally polite but uncooperative is a good description.


34 posted on 03/04/2019 10:01:53 AM PST by yarddog
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The cards also have either a magnetic strip or a bar code that the clerk scans in at the register. I have never had to scratch off a gift card to use it. Not at any store.


35 posted on 03/04/2019 10:09:52 AM PST by Revel
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To: Revel
Lowe's will scratch to reveal the PIN and type it in. I just used one today.
36 posted on 03/04/2019 10:21:24 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Leave the job, leave the clearance. It should be the same rule for the Swamp as for everyone else.)
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To: Ingtar
Walmart probably generates the PIN using the visible card number and someone has reverse engineered the code.

Or an organized crime group has suborned a person in the IT department who can get a list of card numbers and pin codes.

37 posted on 03/04/2019 11:52:11 AM PST by flamberge (It seemed like a good idea at the time)
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To: Hootowl
I keep getting emails notifying me that my Apple Store account has been charged huge sums for various items...

I get emails telling me about my Amazon rewards I can collect by clicking. I've never ordered from Amazon.

38 posted on 03/04/2019 12:05:32 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: rickmichaels

Happened to me. Never used my Walmart gift card and it was mysteriously drained.

Card never left my possession. And yes, Walmart refused to issue me a refund.


39 posted on 03/04/2019 12:09:32 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Hootowl

That one seems like an e-mail phishing attempt; it includes a link, if you click the link it doesn’t appear to work, so I presume the link collected a “hey, this is a good e-mail” result.

I don’t recommend clicking on any links ever. I didn’t do this one, but know someone who did, by accident.


40 posted on 03/04/2019 2:04:09 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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