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Vanity-What’s happens if the Supreme Court (John Roberts) denies Trumps National Emergency?

Posted on 02/16/2019 6:12:11 AM PST by Bigtigermike

What’s the next possible course of action? Is it over for the wall? I don’t trust that guy and it’s obvious that everybody in Washington DC saved for a small group is trying to do everything within their power to deny Trump his key signature issue. They’re determined that he loses the election next year


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To: nonliberal
"Nice kids you have there, John. It would be a shame if we found out they were illegally adopted."

Bingo. Roberts will do as instructed like he did on Obamacare. Lesser cases, he can do as he wants.

41 posted on 02/16/2019 7:28:38 AM PST by Truth29
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To: RoseofTexas

Yes things look bleak but God’s light still shines the brightest. These are the affairs of mortals.


42 posted on 02/16/2019 7:29:00 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: david1292
.......it has become crystal clear that Congress, under no circumstances, will build a wall....nor make changes in the law
that would stem the flow of illegal immigration.......they are sending the message that there is nothing voters can do about it.

Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer continue to play politics with our safety and security. What sleazes Pelosi and Schumer are!
The savagery of these people is defined by their obsession with power, and their relentless pursuit of power....no matter the cost to Western civilization.

Democraps, and their acolytes, are invaders, an invading army waging a vicious war on a peaceful people.
Illegals pouring over our southern borders in caravans are Dems foot soldiers.....with orders to march to the ballot box.

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PELOSI PLEDGES HER UNDYING LOYALTY TO MEXICO--demeans American citizens and Trump to Mexican officials
In 2016 Nancy brought a Congressional delegation to Mexico City to meet with Mexican dignitaries. Pelosi told the Mexican president and his entourage: “We come here as a bipartisan and large delegation to express our respect for the people of Mexico and the country of Mexico; to acknowledge our shared border and our shared values and to learn more about how we can work together for the bright future for not only our two countries but for our hemisphere.”

Pelosi later said the Congressional delegation had a busy time in Mexico City. “We heard a sermon on the importance of workers in Mexico, a view we share. We’ve met with members of the American Chamber of Commerce. We had a very beneficial meeting with Director General Zapata on the subject of the economy and on the subject of TPP (trade pact) especially.

"And then we had a glorious meeting, a really very thorough exchange of subjects and views – again about our shared values and our shared border – with the President [of Mexico]......with Members of the Federal Deputies – Mexican Federal Deputies – and Senators. And in the evening we had a dinner meeting with the Mexican Foreign Minister,” Pelosi said.

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PELOSI DEMEANS AMERICAN CITIZENS WHILE ON MEXICAN SOIL
PELOSI SLAMS DONALD TRUMP TO MEXICAN OFFICIALS
(BEFORE TRUMP GOT THE NOM AND GOT ELECTED BY 63 MILLION AMERICANS)

CIRCA 2016----Pelosi in Mexico telling Mexican officials Trump is speaking to an "insecure minority," who maybe lost their job and
think it was because of immigration, or trade. I think it's putting too much weight on all this. Trump only has one half of one half, 25%."

The 2016 Congressional delegation to Mexico also included Democrat Reps. Norma Torres, Lucille Roybal-Allard, Pete Aguilar and Linda Sanchez (Calif.); Beto O'Rourke and Henry Cuellar (Texas); Ruben Gallego (Ariz.); Michelle Lujan Grisham (N.M.); and Republicans Michael Fitzpatrick (Pa.) and Richard Hanna (N.Y.).

SCHADENFREUD Beto sucked-up bigtime for latino votes....but still lost his Texas race against Cruz.

43 posted on 02/16/2019 7:30:02 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: gibsonguy
The media interpreted it as....see....it's not an emergency.

But he's saying....I did it now because it IS an emergency!

44 posted on 02/16/2019 7:31:28 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Bigtigermike

You can take it to the bank that Roberts will oppose the emergency declaration.


45 posted on 02/16/2019 7:32:56 AM PST by damper99 (pu)
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To: Bigtigermike
Personally, I believe any man that stands opposed to defending the borders of the United States is a traitor to our nation and needs to be dealt with accordingly...
46 posted on 02/16/2019 7:36:29 AM PST by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: gibsonguy
I really don't have to do this.....except I believe that stretching it out only continues the existing problems.

Think of a tire going flat. Every day you drive on it, it gets worse and worse and it doesn't really have to have air right away.

How do you get rid of the problem?

Fill the tire with air.....now.....and investigate further.

47 posted on 02/16/2019 7:41:12 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

What happens? People will die, blood will be on the hands of both sides of the aisle, country will be lost, Trump will eventually be gone and it will be the end of the great country our founding fathers fought to give us. It will be up to patriots to fend for themselves and their families and screw everyone else.


48 posted on 02/16/2019 7:43:06 AM PST by jersey117
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To: DJ Frisat

He has my vote as well but honestly, I wish JaVanka would go away.


49 posted on 02/16/2019 7:45:59 AM PST by hsmomx3
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To: Bigtigermike
As I've said before....
The numbers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say that 64,070 people died from drug overdoses in 2016. That's up 21% from the year before. So, can you even began imagine what the numbers would be nowadays...
If that's not a national emergency what the hell would be.??
50 posted on 02/16/2019 7:46:02 AM PST by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: gibsonguy

To counter the unbelievable amount of angst on so many threads here the past couple of days I suggest listening to the perspective on all this provided by Brian Mudd yesterday filling in for Mark Levin at the start of the show. Too much to write here, his monologue about what he sees as Trump’s strategy is both enlightening and informative and worthy of our serious consideration, as well as to help get many of us out of a feeling of doom. Posting the active link using an iPhone is a PITA, so here’s the paste-able link to the Audio Rewind podcast. Check it out:
http://www.marklevinshow.com/2019/02/15/february-15-2019/


51 posted on 02/16/2019 7:46:24 AM PST by glennaro
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To: Bigtigermike

What happens if Roberts “denies”? How about Trump going full Andrew Jackson.


52 posted on 02/16/2019 7:48:29 AM PST by myerson
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To: Bigtigermike

With Roberts anything is possible, but I don’t think he has the same wiggle room he had with Obamacare. And if he’s being consistent with previous rulings he’ll tell the plaintiffs to go to congress to fix this rather than the courts, since it was congress who gave Presidents broad emergency powers.


53 posted on 02/16/2019 7:54:08 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: Bigtigermike

Separation of powers issue. Screw the court.


54 posted on 02/16/2019 7:57:58 AM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: Bigtigermike

Separation of powers issue. Screw the court.


55 posted on 02/16/2019 7:57:59 AM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: Bigtigermike

Dig a big, beautiful ditch.


56 posted on 02/16/2019 7:58:59 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: gibsonguy

His statement pretty much guarenteed a halt to the National Emergency- I was so mad when he said this as it’s all over the news that this could sink his reasoning for declaring the emergency.

No President isn’t stupid but he refuses to go by script when it’s really important for a legal challenge. He should have just said it is within my rights as Pres to declare the emergency on the boarder due to caravans, danger to women and children and human trafficking.


57 posted on 02/16/2019 8:06:45 AM PST by Engedi
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To: New Jersey Realist

This is the correct answer and all the other permutations and what ifs are silly or mis informed

The power to invoke a National Emergency lies solely with the President and is not subject to review or consent by either Congress or Court

Do some research beyond anything “News” sites or other so called experts

There are MANY EO’s placed by previous Presidents and they are still in effect, they were not subject to it and neither is this one!

End of story

Sic Semper Tyrranis!


58 posted on 02/16/2019 8:07:01 AM PST by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: gibsonguy

Yep I was screaming at the TV when President said that. I wish he would just read from a script when he knows there will be a legal challenge but no, he goes off and just talks an talks giving legal challenges something in his exact words.


59 posted on 02/16/2019 8:10:31 AM PST by Engedi
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To: nathanbedford

I’m not sure I follow you. On one hand you are asking if we “are determining if the law itself is Constitution[al]?” and on the other hand, you are saying that “we are forced into a false choice, supporting a statute which is unconstitutional.”

You think it is unconstitutional, but why ask to determine if it is or isn’t constitutional? What would that serve?


60 posted on 02/16/2019 8:36:35 AM PST by BEJ
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