Source for graphic => https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/images/data/2010_2016DrugOverdose-Deaths-Graphic.JPG
Posted on 02/09/2019 5:35:34 AM PST by Manly Warrior
Okay, we all have heard the argument that MJ is not a bad drug, it is not a gateway and is not a violence-producing mechanism, all to the tune of how the WOD is a waste of resources and effort etc.
Here is a short article that discusses some of the issues and presents some interesting facts. Let's not let our opinions get in the way too much....
https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/marijuana-mental-illness-violence/
Laziness, gradual lack of work ethic, grouchiness, anger at those who insist on a work ethic.
The article has been thoroughly debunked.
Full of allusions, short on facts, cause and effect.
Of course those who want to believe it’s a scholarly work loaded with facts, will.
But it’s not.
Note: Anyone who is crazy should not smoke pot. Anyone who thinks they may be crazy should not smoke pot. Or drink whiskey. Or take/ingest ANY mind altering substance.
From people close to me who are on the front lines at “ground zero” in SW Ohio (Hamilton, Middletown etc.)...in excess of 90% of all people hooked on heroin (or who end up dead from it) are (or were) hard core marijuana users FIRST. Not a weird coincidence. People with mental disorders, particularly schizophrenia, have their symptoms severely exacerbated by similar heavy use of marijuana in that it dramatically heightens the major contributor or lead in to acts of violence in that pop - paranoia. Whether they are using to ameliorate other symptoms of their disorder or not, it appears heavy use feeds into that aspect of their condition that often leads to violence. Do we have great stats on this here in the US? No. Should we start collecting? Yes. Did we make a horrible mistake legalizing “medical marijuana” in Ohio because a small number of greedy people rushed for the bucks regardless of the consequences to thousands of people who will undoubtedly suffer (and possibly die) as a result - you betcha. I am hoping we haven’t reached a point of topic fatigue to such an extent that we can rouse interest in some day doing a recall and maybe...MAYBE reversing this horrendous mistake before too many lives are ruined as a result.
If you’re crazy and you know it shake your meds, smoke your blunt....
“in excess of 90% of all people hooked on heroin (or who end up dead from it) are (or were) hard core marijuana users FIRST.”
You could say that about Budweiser.
A couple of years ago, Jackie was telling me about a patient. In passing, she said something like, Of course he’d been smoking pot his whole life.
Of course? I said.
Yes, they all smoke.
So marijuana causes schizophrenia?
...
Jackie would have been within her rights to say, I know what I’m talking about, unlike you. Instead she offered something neutral like, I think that’s what the big studies say. You should read them.
So I did. The big studies, the little ones, and all the rest. I read everything I could find. I talked to every psychiatrist and brain scientist who would talk to me. And I soon realized that in all my years as a journalist I had never seen a story where the gap between insider and outsider knowledge was so great, or the stakes so high.
To what 'big studies' could she be referring? Pot is still a schedule I drug, which has prevented any real long-term studies.
They’ve told you cannabis can stem opioid use—“Two new studies show how marijuana can help fight the opioid epidemic,” according to Wonkblog, a Washington Post website, in April 2018...
I stopped reading right there. Jeff Bezos' fake news and junk science fit together hand-in-glove.
I wonder why Singapore has one of the highest rates of schizophrenia in the world (#7 out of 192), while the US and the Netherlands rank among the lowest (#181 and #173 respectively, out of 192).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_schizophrenia
I read the article. It's junk science promoted by fake news.
I almost never hear anyone claim that it’s a harmless form of recreation. I think anyone who has used it for any length of time recognizes that there are costs, some of them serious for some people.
What I do hear is people saying that the extreme methods of enforcement of marijuana laws that have been in place cause worse societal problems than the marijuana does. That’s a harder question to answer than “Are drugs good, or are they bad?” If you have to choose one, the answer is definitely “bad”. But if you look at putting someone in jail for 20 years for simple possession, that is worse.
Source for graphic => https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/images/data/2010_2016DrugOverdose-Deaths-Graphic.JPG
Wow, if the Appalachian Trail touches your state, watch out.
I could not disagree more with your point given those photos. I think someone’s out of their mind if they smoke that.
One caveat on that: When a segment of the population have toked themselves into befuddled unemployability, the chosen behavior will be defined as a disease (alcohol abuse, a behavior, as an example) and we'll end up paying them to stay high or to rehab, relapse, rehab, relapse...
Well I could agree with you were speaking of tobacco.
I can’t really see the attraction people have to tobacco, but to weed, I can see it.
I know the attraction to weed. Just saying what I see in those photo’s looks frightening instead of inviting and light years different from what I remember pot looking like.
With tobacco it’s the addiction which begins by being a lemming and not being able to say no to your first smoke.
Hmmm... Michael Jordan wasn’t all that bad...
Yes, but not a single one of those ODs was from weed.
You can not physically overdose on cannabis, it’s impossible.
Unlike alcohol, which can kill you dead if you drink too much at once.
Anyone that tells you there is no link between THC and Psychosis is flat out LYING to you.
Yes most folks will take it without issue, but if you have a genetic predisposition to schizophrenia exposure to it can absolutely trigger the disease and make your psychosis even worse.
“Yes, but not a single one of those ODs was from weed.”
Agreed. My point was to show that legalized pot does not cause an increase in opioid deaths. If anything, it seems to correlate with fewer deaths.
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