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MJ-Really no linkage to violence, mental illness and other drugs?

Posted on 02/09/2019 5:35:34 AM PST by Manly Warrior

Okay, we all have heard the argument that MJ is not a bad drug, it is not a gateway and is not a violence-producing mechanism, all to the tune of how the WOD is a waste of resources and effort etc.

Here is a short article that discusses some of the issues and presents some interesting facts. Let's not let our opinions get in the way too much....

https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/marijuana-mental-illness-violence/


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To: exDemMom

Here’s the book.

http://www.alexberenson.com/tell-your-children-the-truth-about-marijuana-mental-illness-and-violence/


21 posted on 02/09/2019 6:09:25 AM PST by cyclotic ( Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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To: Robert DeLong

Sometimes people get entirely too stoned to go through the proper process of posting a thread.

I’m pretty sure what we have here is an example of that.


22 posted on 02/09/2019 6:09:35 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: bramps
If you were a leftist and wanted to take over a society, would you prefer that your target was stoned or not stoned?

That is a good question. I suppose that initially a leftist wanting to seize power, would view a stoned population easier to take over. But how it would progress is probably not in their favor when the SHTF. It would end up that mostly their supporters are the ones stoned, their opposition is not. Just my thoughts.

23 posted on 02/09/2019 6:15:48 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: Robert DeLong

Thank you for the reminder.
FR etiquette keeps the wheels spinning smoothly.


24 posted on 02/09/2019 6:20:24 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: Manly Warrior

You're facing an uphill battle in convincing people that they should not smoke this.

I mean there's temptation, and then there's temptation, and then there's this.

25 posted on 02/09/2019 6:20:42 AM PST by chris37 (No wall? No vote.)
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To: Ueriah

I do not know much about smoking marijuana but for many people alcohol is not the problem, it is the solution to their problems. Nonetheless; as a solution, it does not end well.


26 posted on 02/09/2019 6:24:34 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: Manly Warrior

Just got the book yesterday.


27 posted on 02/09/2019 6:29:56 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: rstrahan

The damage done to America by the ‘War On Drugs’ with draconian sentences and property seizure by the police is far worse than any damage done by marijuana.
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That is an opinion POSING as fact. And it leaves out so many parts of the equation. So I must ask - What is your point?
For example - are the only things relevant to this topic the three or four aspects you mention?


28 posted on 02/09/2019 6:31:31 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: Manly Warrior

In all fairness, there is an old argument about drugs and alcohol, that is ignored by both sides, but raises an interesting point:

“Do drugs (and alcohol) make a person weak, or do they use drugs (and alcohol) *because* they are weak?”

Part of the argument supporting the latter is that, while strong people can become addicts, it is far easier for them to quit. Weak people become easily addicted, and very reliant on their drugs, and even if their physical addiction is broken, their psychological addiction is not.


29 posted on 02/09/2019 6:35:47 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("I'm mad, y'all" -- Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez)
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To: cyclotic

Thank you.

I also receive a newsletter in the mail, but it covers drug use in general. That’s good, but does not provide the detail that a publication solely on marijuana provides.


30 posted on 02/09/2019 6:42:15 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: chris37

That does not look like something I would want to smoke.


31 posted on 02/09/2019 6:42:53 AM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: Manly Warrior

This quote sums it up:

“A caveat: this federal survey doesn’t count individual cases, and it lumps psychosis with other severe mental illness. So it isn’t as accurate as the Finnish or Danish studies. Nor do any of these studies prove that rising cannabis use has caused population-wide increases in psychosis or other mental illness. The most that can be said is that they offer intriguing evidence of a link.”

Hard-hitting article there... /s


32 posted on 02/09/2019 6:47:24 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Honest Nigerian
I was in the USAF at a time when I was one of the few who wasn't a pothead.

Other than the smell, I never saw it have adverse effects on anyone except getting the munchies and forgetting things.

It mellowed out some folks who became very violent when drinking alcohol.

I am overall, very conservative, which is one reason why I am so much for legalization. I am sick and tired of our tax money being wasted investigating, prosecuting and jailing potheads. Conservatives are supposed to be for freedom and limited government.

Here's a chance to prove it.

33 posted on 02/09/2019 6:50:56 AM PST by Mogger
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
40 years ago, when in the USAF, I would send one of my troops home if he wasn't stoned. In the old days of IBM 80 column keypunch cards, we had a large pile to be produced for cargo manifests every day.

All of us except him hated it. If he was high, I could guide him to his chair at the keypunch machine, and he would become part of it. His fingers a blur, the keypuncher sounding like a machine gun, the stack of punched cards growing.

Never an error. I don't think he even knew he was doing it.

If he wasn't high, he was useless.

I would never let him near aircraft loading equipment when he was high, even though I thought he might do ok.

34 posted on 02/09/2019 6:52:11 AM PST by Mogger
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To: Ueriah
Pot is a gateway drug now. But if it was legal it would much less so.

Presently folks are buying an illegal substance from a person who may want to make more money selling them another, really bad illegal substance.

If it was purchased at the state booze stores, you would never meet that person.

35 posted on 02/09/2019 6:54:35 AM PST by Mogger
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To: bramps
If you were a leftist and wanted to take over a society, would you prefer that your target was stoned or not stoned?

I would hope leftists voters would be too stoned to get out and vote.

36 posted on 02/09/2019 6:56:01 AM PST by Mogger
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To: Manly Warrior

I’m amazed at how devious the push was to legalize marijuana. And even now, all the snake-oil claims about what cannabis can cure...

Of course if you point out the flaws, you end up arguing with a pothead, which is a pointless endeavor.


37 posted on 02/09/2019 6:56:05 AM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Manly Warrior

Saw this is my latest copy of Imprimus, an excellent free monthly newsletter from Hillsdale College.

Good article.


38 posted on 02/09/2019 6:58:31 AM PST by upchuck (Allowing any legal abortion was a slippery slope. Slide completed. ~ h/t YogicCowboy)
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To: Mogger

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1 piece of cargo from McChord AFB....


39 posted on 02/09/2019 6:59:51 AM PST by dakine
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To: Manly Warrior

This is a great article in “Imprimis” the current issue. Lots of good information. Glad it got posted here.


40 posted on 02/09/2019 7:05:46 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Jeremiah 1:5 - "Before I formed thee ... I knew thee.")
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