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Myth: Hitler was a leftist.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm | STEVE KANGAS

Posted on 01/26/2019 2:14:58 PM PST by Pontiac

Summary

Many conservatives accuse Hitler of being a leftist, on the grounds that his party was named "National Socialist."

But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production.

In Nazi Germany, private capitalist individuals owned the means of production, and they in turn were frequently controlled by the Nazi party and state.

True socialism does not advocate such economic dictatorship -- it can only be democratic. Hitler's other political beliefs place him almost always on the far right.

He advocated racism over racial tolerance, eugenics over freedom of reproduction, merit over equality, competition over cooperation, power politics and militarism over pacifism, dictatorship over democracy, capitalism over Marxism, realism over idealism, nationalism over internationalism, exclusiveness over inclusiveness, common sense over theory or science, pragmatism over principle, and even held friendly relations with the Church, even though he was an atheist.


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To: Dr. Pritchett
True, i like the part "He advocated ... power politics and militarism over pacifism, dictatorship over democracy..." which we all know has never been how socialism worked. /s

Except in every socialist country.

I guess all the communist guerilla troops all over the world were and are just pacifists who believe in democracy.

181 posted on 01/26/2019 4:41:03 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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Bump


182 posted on 01/26/2019 4:42:14 PM PST by foreverfree
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To: i_robot73

We don’t have a disagreement. My point is that socialism is always tyrannical. Democracy can be and often is. The author uses the term “democratic” to mean “not a dictatorship”. Socialism is always tyranny.


183 posted on 01/26/2019 4:55:57 PM PST by mkmensinger
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To: RoosterRedux
Socialism and communism are vehicles used to seize power. Authoritarianism, in theory is not possible in a republic. Socialism requires authoritarianism. Freedom to own property, to own your own business, indeed the freedom to argue against socialistic economics is not allowed. This requires authoritarianism. Once in power, the head of the government enjoys power, wealth, privilege. Whether they call themselves national socialists, or international socialists is merely a ruse toward an authoritarian end. Only the useful idiots are duped.
184 posted on 01/26/2019 4:57:26 PM PST by fhayek
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To: PapaBear3625

You nailed it, the only difference between Facism and Communism is who supposedly owns the property.


185 posted on 01/26/2019 5:01:41 PM PST by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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To: fhayek

Amen to that.


186 posted on 01/26/2019 5:03:04 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Pontiac

Endpoint leftism: Totalitarian.

Endpoint rightism: Anarchist.

Fascism is localized and qualified totalitarianism.

Adolf and Wilhelm conspired to take away aircraft contracts from Ernst. Heinkel’s designs were superior. Private ownership did not matter.


187 posted on 01/26/2019 5:03:39 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Pontiac

The NAZI party was very, very homosexual.

German society was the most pro-homosexual European nation when the NAZIs rose to power.

This piece is just part of the endless effort of the demonic, devil-worshipping, baby-killing, sodomy-obsessing, property-robbing, gun-grabbing left’s efforts to dehumanize those who merely hold views different from theirs, because they want to murder us in their bloodlust.

The only possible outcome is WAR.


188 posted on 01/26/2019 5:15:21 PM PST by unlearner (War is coming.)
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To: mkmensinger
“True socialism does not advocate such economic dictatorship — it can only be democratic. Rubbish!"


189 posted on 01/26/2019 5:24:01 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Pontiac

Other than Nationalized Healthcare, Nationalized banks, industry and a massive welfare system he was a capitalist.


190 posted on 01/26/2019 5:46:17 PM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: EveningStar

Good news.


191 posted on 01/26/2019 5:53:05 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Fightin Whitey

Have you heard the news?
The dogs are dead
You better stay home
And do as you’re told
Get out of the road if you want to grow old


192 posted on 01/26/2019 5:54:26 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: unlearner
The NAZI party was very, very homosexual. German society was the most pro-homosexual European nation when the NAZIs rose to power.

Just watch the movie "Cabaret". "Tomorrow Belongs to Me" is still one of the most chilling things ever put to film.

193 posted on 01/26/2019 5:56:02 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Pontiac

So.... socialism is a right wing ideology now?


194 posted on 01/26/2019 6:19:55 PM PST by jmacusa ("The more numerous the laws the more corrupt the government''.)
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To: dfwgator
A common misconception. Calling a person a homosexual in Nazi Germany was a means of smearing someone. In Wiemar Germany homosexuality was tolerated. Under the Nazis thousands of homosexuals went to the gas chambers.
195 posted on 01/26/2019 6:22:42 PM PST by jmacusa ("The more numerous the laws the more corrupt the government''.)
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To: fhayek

The pretense of private ownership exists under socialism. Under communism there is no such pretense.


196 posted on 01/26/2019 6:24:46 PM PST by jmacusa ("The more numerous the laws the more corrupt the government''.)
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To: jmacusa

Some Communist countries, like Tito’s Yugoslavia and Hungary, allowed some private ownership.


197 posted on 01/26/2019 6:26:20 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: higgmeister
Far right is small government, economic freedom, invisible hand governance, etc. Far left is coercive totalitarianism. There is no circle!? East is east, west is west, never the twain shall meet. Ideological brothers, the Brown Shirts (Socialists), and the Red Shirts (Communists), fought for supremacy on the streets of Berlin. We all know who won! When this happened, the Red Shirts merely changed to brown shirts.

NAZI National Socialism was not "national". It was a globalist movement for world domination; a totalitarian socialism to control over the world. That is why the NAZI's divided the globe with
198 posted on 01/26/2019 6:32:07 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Pontiac

Fascism has private ownership, state-directed economy. Socialism has state ownership, state-directed economy.

Fascism wants national control; socialism wants international control - is that an improvement?

Both are police states.

(Soft socialism can exist in a multi-party nation and is a very different animal from the one-party socialism idealized by the writer.)

((The Volkswagen so loved by hippies and lefties was built by the German Labor Front, a Nazi all-workers union, with a Fuhrer commanded cash transfusion from Porsche, capital serving the workers. GLF also provided national health, national gyms, national high culture, national vacations, resorts and cruise ships for the workers. Volksgemeinshaft, people’s community. Sounds pretty socialist to me.))


199 posted on 01/26/2019 6:33:28 PM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: dfwgator

I have a herd of cats.

They been running the joint for years.


200 posted on 01/26/2019 6:35:42 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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