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Myth: Hitler was a leftist.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm | STEVE KANGAS

Posted on 01/26/2019 2:14:58 PM PST by Pontiac

Summary

Many conservatives accuse Hitler of being a leftist, on the grounds that his party was named "National Socialist."

But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production.

In Nazi Germany, private capitalist individuals owned the means of production, and they in turn were frequently controlled by the Nazi party and state.

True socialism does not advocate such economic dictatorship -- it can only be democratic. Hitler's other political beliefs place him almost always on the far right.

He advocated racism over racial tolerance, eugenics over freedom of reproduction, merit over equality, competition over cooperation, power politics and militarism over pacifism, dictatorship over democracy, capitalism over Marxism, realism over idealism, nationalism over internationalism, exclusiveness over inclusiveness, common sense over theory or science, pragmatism over principle, and even held friendly relations with the Church, even though he was an atheist.


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I ran across this fantasy writing and had to share it with you Freepers.

It is excerpted because I don't have the time right now to format it properly.

Sorry.

This guy seems to have a really idealized notion of Socialism. Anyone have any idea who he is?

1 posted on 01/26/2019 2:14:58 PM PST by Pontiac
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To: Pontiac

Kangas need to place the meth pipe on the table and back away. Playing to the “heads full of mush” he is.


2 posted on 01/26/2019 2:18:26 PM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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He was a lefty though. They goofed in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade when showed him signing that book with his right hand!


3 posted on 01/26/2019 2:18:49 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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“True socialism does not advocate such economic dictatorship — it can only be democratic.” Rubbish. Socialism is ALWAYS coercive. Marxists and Fascists are identical: they are all statists.


4 posted on 01/26/2019 2:19:53 PM PST by mkmensinger
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Socialism does not require worker ownership.

Socialism has the state owning the means.

Full-blown communism has the workers owning everything.

Socialisk is the transition stage from capitalism to communism and the communit state is set up as god guide to progress people from socialism to pure communism (which will never happen).

Guy is nuts right here. Knows not what he speaks of.


5 posted on 01/26/2019 2:20:04 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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Liberals just don’t like to look in the mirror.


6 posted on 01/26/2019 2:20:28 PM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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“I ran across this fantasy writing and had to share it with you Freepers”
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I can post a photo of a turd but why would I?


7 posted on 01/26/2019 2:20:44 PM PST by Artemis Webb
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Nice try.
Fail to the Nth power (where N is very large).


8 posted on 01/26/2019 2:20:54 PM PST by Da Coyote
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But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production.


Cuba, Venezuela, and the ex-USSR aren’t socialist by that definition as the govt owned the means of production, not the workers.


9 posted on 01/26/2019 2:20:55 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: mkmensinger

Democracy is mob rule. Tell me how that wont ever be “coercive”.

Constitutional republics are superior to democracies, in every way.


10 posted on 01/26/2019 2:21:21 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Artemis Webb

No kidding. The guy who wrote this killed himself 20 years ago. Not sure why it’s posted now (or ever).


11 posted on 01/26/2019 2:22:34 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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Workers didn’t own squat in The Soviet Union.


12 posted on 01/26/2019 2:22:38 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Indeed.


13 posted on 01/26/2019 2:22:48 PM PST by mkmensinger
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To: Pontiac

Goebbels would have disagreed. He called the NSDAP the “German Left”.


14 posted on 01/26/2019 2:24:09 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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There were no noteworthy differences in mindset...or anything else...between the 20th Century's three great psychopaths:Hitler,Stalin and Mao.
15 posted on 01/26/2019 2:25:17 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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This is false- socialism does not require both ownership and control of the means of production- that would be communism.

Socialism I that stage before communism when the government takes varying degrees of control over business but does not bear the burden or risks of owning it.


16 posted on 01/26/2019 2:25:39 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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If nothing else, this is a great example of a strawman argument.


17 posted on 01/26/2019 2:25:58 PM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Pontiac; All
Most Socialist in the 30's were racists as well.

Hitler was clearly in the middle of the left. The left consisted of National socialists and International socialists.

At the end of WWII, the National Socialists had lost and the International Socialists had won.

The mass killings exposed in the Holocaust were exposed and put the National Socialists into disfavor.

The mass killings done by the International Socialists were kept hidden in Russia behind the Iron Curtain.

The idea that Hitler was on the right was concocted by the International Socialists after the war to provide a false choice between National Socialism and International Socialism.

Notice they did not leave any choice for limited government.

18 posted on 01/26/2019 2:26:04 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Marxists and Fascists are identical: they are all statists.

Identical? How can you say that. It's like this:

Under fascism, the state controls what you produce, how much you charge for it, who you must hire and how much you must pay them, who your suppliers are and how much you must pay them. But the state gives you a piece of paper that says you own your business.

In socialism, they take back the piece of paper.

In communism (which never happens) they tear up the piece of paper.

See, they're different. Really. Would all those ivory tower academics lie?
19 posted on 01/26/2019 2:28:20 PM PST by Phlyer
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This guy seems to have a really idealized notion of Socialism reality.

FIFY

20 posted on 01/26/2019 2:29:07 PM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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