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It WASN'T the update, says MS: Windows 7 suffers identity crisis... activation errors (tr)
The Register ^ | Jan 11, 2019 | Richard Speed

Posted on 01/12/2019 8:19:09 AM PST by dayglored

Activation server fiddling on day of monthly update... really?

Microsoft has said that activation errors seen by Windows 7 users should not be chalked up to Tuesday's patch, but rather were an entirely different cockup.

Windows Activation Technologies is the Jiminy Cricket of Windows 7, chirping at you if it thinks you might not be paying for your licensing. Combining Jiminy with the Key Management Service (KMS) on Windows 7, as many enterprise customers likely do (even though Microsoft wishes they wouldn't), hasn't caused too many headaches.

Until this week.

A tweak to the Activation Servers saw happily licensed Windows 7 users suddenly presented with "Windows is not genuine"-type notifications from 10:00 UTC on January 8, surprising BOFHs already dealing with loss of folder sharing for some users thanks to the January update.

Even Microsoft was initially confused, before finally updating its known issues for the iffy update to insist that just because activation errors appeared to start happening just after the update was installed, it didn't mean that was the cause.

"The timing of this issue coincides with the release of the January updates (KB4480960 and KB4480970) that were released on Tuesday, January 8, 2019. These events are not related."

After a long day of head-scratching, someone at Microsoft had a lightbulb moment and at 04:30 UTC on 9 January, the activation server change was reverted, fixing the issue for many. Microsoft would still very much like enterprise users to uninstall the Jiminy Cricket update (aka KB971033) because it is aimed at consumers.

Borkage of the activation servers is nothing new in the Windows world. Lucky Windows 10 Pro users suddenly found themselves relegated to Home status last November.

However, updating the servers Windows uses to check it is the real deal on the same day that users get their important patches takes a special kind of planning. ®


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: activation; windows7; windowspinglist; windowsupdate
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You know it's gonna be a long day when your copy of Windows suddenly -- and incorrectly -- announces that your license is invalid.
1 posted on 01/12/2019 8:19:09 AM PST by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; bajabaja; ...
Windows 7 license activation screwup ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 01/12/2019 8:19:44 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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Original title:

It WASN'T the update, says Microsoft: Windows 7 suffers identity crisis as users hit by activation errors

3 posted on 01/12/2019 8:20:34 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored

What is this ‘Windows’ of which you speak?

In a world without walls, who needs windows?


4 posted on 01/12/2019 8:31:06 AM PST by null and void (If they don't respect our borders, why would you expect them to respect our National Parks, or us?)
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To: null and void

https://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/bliss-windows-xp-original-640x514.jpg

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/179576-rip-windows-xp-the-story-behind-bliss-the-most-iconic-wallpaper-of-all-time

5 posted on 01/12/2019 8:49:40 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored
"...The photo you see above — the default wallpaper for Windows XP — is probably the most recognizable image in the world. What you probably didn’t know is that it’s a real photo, called Bliss, taken by Charles “Chuck” O’Rear in 1996, and then sold to Microsoft for an undisclosed sum (but it was apparently one of the highest prices ever paid for a single photo)..."

The story of 'Bliss'"

6 posted on 01/12/2019 8:51:46 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored

Reason 1 million why I went to Linux. I can’t risk that kind of shutdown.


7 posted on 01/12/2019 8:52:34 AM PST by DaxtonBrown
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To: dayglored

The update is waiting to install on my computer. Think I’ll keep it waiting.

I generally avoid updating software to the extent possible so as to avoid breaking working software.

The good news is that MS has promised to quit rolling out updates for Win7 next year, so it should finally become stable.


8 posted on 01/12/2019 8:56:27 AM PST by PAR35
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> The good news is that MS has promised to quit rolling out updates for Win7 next year, so it should finally become stable.

Well, that's one (valid) way to look at the support cutoff.

The other is that we "What? Take My Win7 Away? FMCDH!" users will not get the benefit of security updates. After Jan 2020, surf with greater care.

9 posted on 01/12/2019 8:59:26 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: DaxtonBrown

My Win10 got slower and slower. I tried all kinds of virus software and nothing helped. I was driven to Linux. It is just as fast now as the day I installed it.


10 posted on 01/12/2019 9:05:08 AM PST by BipolarBob (God bless America - except for California.)
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To: dayglored

It was the dog, honest!


11 posted on 01/12/2019 9:06:42 AM PST by W. (I'm tired of cleaning up after autokorrect. Wish it would die!)
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“Even Microsoft was initially confused, before finally updating its known issues for the iffy update”

I do not believe this for one minute. They tried to pull something to force everyone to upgrade to 10 and got caught. But the opposition and attention it got made them cover it up. MS NEVER does anything wrong or make mistakes. Just call customer service and they will tell you this straight up with no flex. It’s always your fault never theirs.

Yes, I’m still mad about your last MS post... Just the word “windows” sets me off anymore. lol


12 posted on 01/12/2019 9:10:14 AM PST by Openurmind
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[[After Jan 2020, surf with greater care. ]]

I do- by using linux to surf the net with lol- only use windows for windows only games, and photoshop


13 posted on 01/12/2019 9:10:45 AM PST by Bob434
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To: dayglored

This article might be of use if the one that cobbled it together was more interested in giving fact instead of trying to be so cute!


14 posted on 01/12/2019 9:10:55 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Bob434

We should start a Linux group here to collaborate...


15 posted on 01/12/2019 9:15:44 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: mountainlion
> This article might be of use if the one that cobbled it together was more interested in giving fact instead of trying to be so cute!

The Register does have a penchant for cutesy, sarcastic writing. OTOH they also have an excellent record of coming out with tech scoops hours or days ahead of most everyone else, which can be advantageous in the case of problems.

I find that following their links to the original articles/papers have drier but more complete descriptions.

16 posted on 01/12/2019 9:19:12 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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> We should start a Linux group here to collaborate...

ShadowAce runs the (mostly-Linus) Tech Ping List. I suggest you start there, if you're not already on it.

17 posted on 01/12/2019 9:20:26 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored; Openurmind; Bob434; ShadowAce

Oops. s/(mostly-Linus)/(mostly-Linux)/


18 posted on 01/12/2019 9:21:47 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored

I’ve got to reinstall Windows 7 on a PC tomorrow. I’ll let you know how it goes.


19 posted on 01/12/2019 9:23:21 AM PST by McGruff
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To: dayglored

We had multiple instances of this last week. It coincided with a change of KMS (virtual) server. It was fun to watch them squirm!


20 posted on 01/12/2019 9:23:47 AM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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