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Earth Is Drifting Away From The Sun, And So Are All The Planets
Forbes ^ | 1/3/19 | Ethan Siegel

Posted on 01/04/2019 12:07:50 PM PST by LibWhacker

On January 3rd, 2019, Earth reached the point in its orbit where it's at its closest approach to the Sun: perihelion. Every object orbiting a single mass (like our Sun) makes an ellipse, containing a point of closest approach that's unique to that particular orbit, known as periapsis. For the past 4.5 billion years, Earth has orbited the Sun in an ellipse, just like all the other planets orbiting their stars in all the other mature solar systems throughout the galaxy and Universe.

But there's something you may not expect or appreciate that nevertheless occurs: Earth's orbital path doesn't remain the same over time, but spirals outward. This year, 2019, our perihelion was 1.5 centimeters farther away than it was last year, which was more distant than the year before, etc. It's not just Earth, either; every planet drifts away from its parent star. Here's the science of why.

The force responsible for the orbits of every planet around every solar system in the Universe is the same: the universal law of gravitation. Whether you look at it in terms of Newton, where every mass attracts every other mass in the Universe, or in terms of Einstein, where mass-and-energy curves the fabric of spacetime through which other masses travel, the largest mass dominates the orbit of everything it influences.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; catastrophism; drifting; earth; orbit; science; sun; tidaltrnfrmomentum
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To: LibWhacker

At that rate, it’ll take 10.7 million years to move 100 miles further away.

That might drop our average temperature 0.00001 degrees.


101 posted on 01/04/2019 4:24:20 PM PST by TruthFactor (Hang em', Hang em' High.)
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To: LibWhacker

If we are moving further from the sun, the earth will get colder. So global warming will be taken care of. We don’t have to worry about it.


102 posted on 01/04/2019 4:27:06 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: LibWhacker

This was an extremely complicated explanation of a simple situation. I would sure hate to be in one of the author’s classes. He’s the kind of guy who likes to impress you with his brilliance by not giving any of it away.


103 posted on 01/04/2019 4:42:46 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: cuban leaf
"If they can get us to believe they can measure it that precisely, they can get us to believe anything they tell us."

Because physics is just a trick, designed to tell you a bunch of lies. Some of you are strange people.

In any case, if you'd read the article you'd note that it's not a measurement. It's a calculation based on the various forces at work.

And science is capable of measuring a great many things very precisely. You'd obviously be surprised.

104 posted on 01/04/2019 4:57:14 PM PST by mlo
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To: minnesota_bound

LOL!


105 posted on 01/04/2019 5:33:14 PM PST by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: fwdude

The Earth will still be vaporized when the Sun goes helium burning red giant.


106 posted on 01/04/2019 5:33:58 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Simon Green

The Sun also loses mass due to the solar wind.


107 posted on 01/04/2019 5:38:58 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Fred Hayek
The Sun also loses mass due to the solar wind.

Good point. I just looked it up; the sun loses 4 million tons per second due to fusion, and 1.5 million tons per second due to the solar wind. At that rate, in the next 5 billion years it will have lost only about 0.034% of its current mass.

Mind you, it will be turning into a red giant around that time, so we'll have other worries.

108 posted on 01/04/2019 8:11:38 PM PST by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.”)
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To: outofsalt

That’s what I get for not looking it up and trusting my memory. 93 million miles is the correct so I was off by two orders of magnitude. The point still stands- if the sun expands its influence several orders of magnitude faster than the earth moves away eventually the earth gets charred.


109 posted on 01/04/2019 8:47:02 PM PST by Data Miner
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To: Robwin

As the Sun loses mass the gravitational field will weaken ...


110 posted on 01/04/2019 9:23:24 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: LibWhacker

Looking at it slightly askew, as I often do, woo-hoo-hoo:

We’ve FINALLY found the source of PERPETUAL MOTION! YAY!!


111 posted on 01/04/2019 9:57:37 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: LibWhacker

Looking at it slightly askew, as I often do, woo-hoo-hoo:

We’ve FINALLY found the source of PERPETUAL MOTION! YAY!!


112 posted on 01/04/2019 10:12:51 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

15 millimeter = 0.000 009 320 567 883 6 mile


113 posted on 01/04/2019 10:21:25 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: numberonepal

Go with RINGWORLD!


114 posted on 01/04/2019 10:27:06 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Data Miner

93 MILLION MILES, not 9.3 billion.

From your homepage:

Bits of data mined from my first month on Free Republic:
Many are given to careless reading, careless thinking and careless responses.
The same people seem to think ignorance is no excuse for not commenting, being called out on their slovenly thinking and ignorance doesn’t cause them rethink, but running to a moderator.

Would not an error in the realm of an order of magnitude be “careless”?

Yeesh!


115 posted on 01/04/2019 10:31:04 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: C210N

I don’t think our sun is big enough to go nova. I thought it was going to be a burn out.


116 posted on 01/04/2019 10:43:33 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm so excited for Mitt to be back. He and Paulette can reboot: Romney/Ryan 2.0.2.0. ;-))
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To: Fledermaus
I'm wrong, you are correct. However, the thinking is nebulae/red-giant, which still heats up everything to mars, including us.

In about 5 billion years, it's due to turn into a red giant. The core of the star will shrink, but its outer layers will expand out to the orbit of Mars, engulfing our planet in the process. If it's even still there.

117 posted on 01/04/2019 10:49:01 PM PST by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: C210N

Six in one half...either way! lol


118 posted on 01/04/2019 10:53:41 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm so excited for Mitt to be back. He and Paulette can reboot: Romney/Ryan 2.0.2.0. ;-))
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To: LibWhacker

Yep - and the moon is moving about a mile further away from us every 50K years - the flip side is that since other gravitational factors come into play, having an orbit fast enough to move you away from a star ever so slightly is better than to have a decaying orbit - satellites with such orbits tend to burn up on entering ....


119 posted on 01/05/2019 3:17:04 AM PST by trebb (Put your money where your mouth is - or be deemed "empty hot air worthless")
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To: Don W

I acknowledged my error and corrected myself. It did not invalidate my argument though because it wasn’t off by enough orders of magnitude to change the result.

My profile observations come for seeing many around here who will not correct themselves or accept that they are commenting from ignorance. I am human and made mistakes, but a number of people here seem to think it beneath themselves to be wrong.


120 posted on 01/05/2019 10:00:11 AM PST by Data Miner
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