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Flynn Judgment Thread
various | 12/18/2018 | struggle

Posted on 12/18/2018 6:59:55 AM PST by struggle

This is the thread for reaction to results of Flynn ruling - from 9:30 EST.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: 19meetings; flynn; michaelflynn; mueller; trumprussia; turkeyconnection
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To: TheCipher

My read has always been that the plea contained a release from NDA that enabled him to testify + cooperate in other matters. The plea is thus essential to him spilling the beans from his knowledge + experience as head of DIA. The timing of this hearing has always suggested that POTUS can issue a pardon for Christmas.


61 posted on 12/18/2018 8:42:11 AM PST by Steven W.
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To: An.American.Expatriate

From what I’m seeing on Twitter the judge spanked Flynn’s lawyers for some of the things in their sentencing memo and made Flynn and them explicitly say that Flynn wasn’t entrapped.


62 posted on 12/18/2018 8:42:27 AM PST by semimojo
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To: Steven W.

Sounds like it’s Flynn and his lawyers who want to proceed with the guilty plea.


63 posted on 12/18/2018 8:42:30 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: TheCipher

Why would a national security director give information to FBI without first ascertaining their need to know? It makes no sense. It’s like asking a CIA operator what he learned.


64 posted on 12/18/2018 8:42:32 AM PST by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Galatians513

Plea....means no public trial. God knows how long that would take.


65 posted on 12/18/2018 8:43:35 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: struggle

Thanks for the thread. I’m without power and afraid to follow the livestreams.


66 posted on 12/18/2018 8:43:45 AM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: ScaniaBoy

Flynn likely realizes if his plea is withdrawn or if the judge vacates the charges, Mueller WILL go after his family without delay. Flynn is still falling on his sword.


67 posted on 12/18/2018 8:44:09 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

He just wants it over with. Only couch potato experts think there’s something else going on.


68 posted on 12/18/2018 8:44:47 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Falling on his sword to protect his family but not the nation...


69 posted on 12/18/2018 8:45:20 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: semimojo

If so, it is over for him and the country as the fiasco will roll on.


70 posted on 12/18/2018 8:48:07 AM PST by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

They most likely have a shite-tonne against him on Turkey and have threatened to put him in jail for life, and probably his son, if he doesn’t play this straight. Flynn is indeed falling on his sword, but for various reasons.


71 posted on 12/18/2018 8:49:03 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Mouton

@awprokop

Judge Sullivan: “This is a very. Serious. Offense. A high-ranking senior official of the government making false statements to the FBI while on the physical premises of the White House.”

Judge: Is Mr. Flynn still cooperating with and providing assistance to the government?

SCO’s Brandon Van Grack hesitates. “It remains a possibility,” he says, that Flynn will cooperate further.

@stevenportnoy

Sullivan describes Flynn’s crime as a “very serious offense” — a high ranking government official lying to the FBI, and doing it “while on the physical premises of the White House.”

Mueller prosecutor Brandon van Grack haltingly tells Sullivan it is a “possibility” that Flynn is still cooperating with the special counsel’s office.


72 posted on 12/18/2018 8:49:22 AM PST by Steven W.
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To: ScaniaBoy

Sad


73 posted on 12/18/2018 8:50:50 AM PST by Freee-dame (Best election ever! 2016)
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To: Steven W.

Thank you Steven W.

Trying to follow this while cooking breakfast and waiting for Live Stakeout.


74 posted on 12/18/2018 8:51:30 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Steven W.
...a high ranking government official lying to the FBI, and doing it “while on the physical premises of the White House.”

It's also "a very serious offense" for Comey to send two FBI agents to the White House to interview Trump's National Security Adviser while NOT FOLLOWING PROTOCOL and not coordinating with White House Counsel.

75 posted on 12/18/2018 8:54:22 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: InterceptPoint

They already are....did you just hear Stierwalt cackling?


76 posted on 12/18/2018 8:54:41 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Steven W.

That will undoubtedly be added to the red line list.


77 posted on 12/18/2018 8:54:44 AM PST by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: Diogenesis

78 posted on 12/18/2018 8:55:43 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Steven W.

IE., the FBI ignored there own procedure and interviewed Flynn with out contacting the Attorney General first to agree to and arrange the interview and possibly provide an attorney during that interview.


79 posted on 12/18/2018 8:56:14 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Duchess47

Judge Sullivan is giving Flynn yet another chance to delay — now telling him it’s his “prerogative” whether to move forward — because he hasn’t necessarily finished offering helpful information to the government that might mitigate a sentence.

This after Mueller prosecutor Brandon van Grack haltingly telling the Judge it is a “possibility” that Flynn is still cooperating with the special counsel’s office.


80 posted on 12/18/2018 8:57:08 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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