Ho, ho, ho -- don't eat raw cookie dough: CDC

abc ^ | 12/08/2018 | Eric M. Strauss

[BenLurkin]

The holidays are upon us and for many that means family time in the kitchen preparing delicious baked goods and maybe even licking the spoon before the cookies go into the oven. So the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) put out a warning this week to, “Say No To Raw Dough!”

Dr. Todd Ellerin -- who admits he doesn’t bake -- said it’s the raw flour and uncooked eggs that can make us sick.

Ellerin warned that “complications of this type of E. coli can include bloody diarrhea, need for prolonged hospitalization, and kidney failure, breakdown of red blood cells that carry oxygen.”

CDC says Salmonella symptoms typically include diarrhea, fever, and abdominal cramps. In most cases, illness lasts 4 to 7 days and people recover without antibiotics. Illness from Salmonella bacteria can be serious and is more dangerous for older adults, infants, and people with weakened immune systems.

Dr. Ellerin wants people to have a nice holiday season and doesn’t want to ruin Kim’s fun in the kitchen, but has a wish for one and all, “We are used to hearing Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas, but in the kitchen as we are preparing to make cookies, it should be Ho Ho Ho, please avoid the raw dough!”

[Sacajaweau]

Just like the lettuce junk warning.

[Magnum44]

I might try this. Thx.

[frog in a pot]

Every time I buy farm eggs, they have poop all over them. But then I read, don’t wash them, or you’ll wash off the natural protective coating. In other words, who knows?

Well, silly, that natural protection wasn't designed for your protection, it was designed for the eggs protection: to keep humans from eating them. (/snort, now on with the rest of my day.)

[petitfour]

I do. I made sugar cookies one year with my children. My then six year old daughter decided to save some of the dough for later. She put it in a ziploc bag and snuck it away to her room. A day or so later, she ate it. She went to school and barfed in front of her class. 😂 She later confessed her cookie dough crime. She’s grown now and continues to eat raw dough, but she eats it as she makes it now. I’m sure she allows her children to eat it, too. I think I will remind her of her misdeeds, so she tells the grands that raw cookie dough left out is bad news for the tummy. Eww.

[CarolinaPeach]

Hi, I’m CarolinaPeach and I survived eating fried chicken and potato salad that had not been kept cool at many church dinners and picnics as I grew up.

Cookie dough was a rare treat because it was destined to be cookies, but I survived that as well.

Peach

[FreedomPoster]

I looked, Anova’s new model is $70 at Amazon. The old one like mine is only $130 or so. Never use the app/Wi-fi/Bluetooth, just the temp thumbwheel and on/off button.

Once you start using it for steaks and chops and such, you’ll wonder how you lived without it.

[muggs]

I keep my flour in the freezer as the article suggests. What are the bugs in rice and oatmeal. Maybe I will start keeping them in the freezer. Besides that, we just got a new refriger/freezer and have so much room. It looks empty.

[muggs]

It is real but not common.

[muggs]

I eat raw cookie, cake and brownie dough/batter. I actually tastes better than the baked stuff. I had a cat that loved yellow cake batter. She could smell it from several rooms away. Maybe that’s what killed her, or maybe it was old age. Now I’m not sure.

I used to drink a protein drink with two raw eggs,

[muggs]

Oh man, you are in trouble. Does your wife read FR.

[logi_cal869]

Since you neither write that your relative has Coeliac or that gluten affects you, I am directing this to any FReeper who has fallen for the Coeliac/gluten-free trap as laid by the American Medical Association and MDs across America:

Coeliac disease is curable and “gluten-free” is a bullshit gimmick that is destroying the health of millions of Americans out of greed and sheer ignorance.

Wow, right? But it’s true. A person needs only to set aside any (confirmation) bias and read the linked article at bottom very, very carefully.

One particular note: Any “diet” is a medical treatment and, with all medical treatments, should be defined in scope & term, meaning NOT perpetual. In the case of treating Coeliac and other intestinal disorders such as fungal overgrowth (one aspect egregiously-absent from some patients’ testing despite the OBVIOUS symptoms of such), these treatments require judicious application by the patient for a YEAR or more. In the absence of a clinical setting for that entire period, the patient becomes their worst enemy (cheating) and this is repeated daily across the country, leaving people in a perpetual state of disease.

I encourage this to be shared. I clearly outline all the details in my still-unpublished book which explains not only how to address ALL outlier intestinal disorders (Coeliac is but one of many) but addresses potential “causes”, as the greatest tragedy second only to maintaining a perpetual state of disease by perpetually-engaging a “diet” is returning to the diseased state by repeating actions which brought the disease in the first place.

Coeliac was curable 70 years ago; it is still curable today. And by “curable”, I mean consuming gluten once again without negative impact, including antibodies. The reasons for this are complicated and I’m not diving into the morass here.

http://btvc.webfactional.com/news/detail/1997-02-20/whatever-happened-to-the-cure-for-coeliac-disease/

[SamAdams76]

Sometimes I think these articles are written by busybody crones who rub their hands and cackle with glee over the prospects of ruining somebody’s fun somewhere.

[super7man]

I’m safe as long as you don’t tell her.

[ssfromla]

Don’t tell the pot heads about this because there will rioting in the streets for their cookie dough lol

[Calvin Locke]

I've read that the vaccine for chicken e.coli is ~$0.05 per chicken.

The UK, probably EU, requires it, iirc.

[OldMissileer]

Thank you for your post.

I am sick and tired of all this fake gluten free crud being foisted on us as well as all the people whining about their gluten free diets.

It has been a couple years but I ended up reading a few medical reports about the very tiny percentage of people who had problems with gluten and how the whole gluten scare is just another way for certain groups and companies to make money.

The BPA scare was another hoax created by a stay at home female blogger. Made her famous and put cash in her pocket.

[Calvin Locke]

In addition to the things you mentioned, the fertilizing manure from farm animals is a source of e.coli, including the "bad" variants, so, it can, and does, emanate from the ground up.

Don't know about mill sterilization processing techniques.

[logi_cal869]

Thanks for that. I’ve all but ceased my outreach to people while I work to finish my books due to the irrational, obstinate nature of 100% of people I encounter who choose to stay diseased when a solution is literally staring them in the face.

I hate to admit it, but the net effect of an unwelcome solution has been demoralizing. Still, I will get this done and when it’s finally out there, it will blow everything up.

[Flaming Conservative]

Salmonella is supposedly an almost normal part of every chicken, passed into to eggs in the laying process, and that’s what usually causes illness, but nobody (apparently) wants antibiotics in their chicken. In fact, it’s a selling point. Pasteurization would kill salmonella. But, yeah, if you include 0.05¢, to every chicken, that’s really gonna eat into the profits, right? Reminds me of about 40 years ago, some genius bean counter at Enfamil or Similac, or some such formula company, decided to leave out the salt in baby formula, to save the company a few THOUSAND bucks a year, and of course, babies started DYING, before someone figured it out, because, of course, humans cannot live without salt.

[Impala64ssa]

I'd take Frank Zappa's advice Don't eat the yellow snow He had more credility than most "scientists".