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Stock Market Selloff Starting Early [Now.]
Various sources. | December 6, 2018 | familyop

Posted on 12/06/2018 7:11:45 AM PST by familyop

The Dow is thrashing around 500 down (~ minus 500) at the time of this writing.

Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/markets/stocks

Or Bloomberg, if you prefer. No content allowed from Bloomberg allowed here except title and/or link. Here's the link.

https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/stocks

Any speculation in regards to any honest causes? The economy has been getting better so far.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: economy; markets
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To: central_va

Yup. That’s my take on it as well.

For nearly three decades the Stock Market reflected an economy that benefitted elites.

In 2016 the people of the world began to say “enough!”

The economy is starting to be changed in ways that no longer benefit the elites as much. They are throwing their stampy-foot hissy fit, and the Dow reflects that.


21 posted on 12/06/2018 7:46:59 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Most Say Trump Reelection Likely in 2020
Tuesday, December 04, 2018
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/november_2018/most_say_trump_reelection_likely_in_2020

Americans Are More Upbeat About U.S.-China Trade
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/china/americans_are_more_upbeat_about_u_s_china_trade

Confidence In New Trade Deal with Canada, Mexico is Up
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/december_2018/confidence_in_new_trade_deal_with_canada_mexico_is_up

Online is Key For Holiday Shoppers This Year
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22 posted on 12/06/2018 7:47:52 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop; All

The Federal Reserve, that is neither Federal or have the Reserves (why the no audits for transparency?), have raised the interest rates 7 times in less than 2 years on President Trump and are planning to raise it at least 5 more times to kill our recovery. This is even though they never raised it one time on Obama in 8 years.

Why does we allow a Private company to manipulate our stock market like this? The Federal Reserve claims they are trying to prevent hyper inflation. However, the only inflation we have is in salaries which was 3% year over year. Although people have not had raises in a decade this is not really “hyper inflation”.


23 posted on 12/06/2018 7:50:31 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Red Badger

One would think they would, sure, but we’re talking about a whole generation of leadership that’s been told by government to go-along-to-get-along ever since NAFTA. The people who built these companies are either retired or dead. Left in their place is a bunch of Ivy League-educated James Taggarts.


24 posted on 12/06/2018 7:55:00 AM PST by jyo19
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To: jyo19

Exactly so....................


25 posted on 12/06/2018 7:57:01 AM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: familyop

I was correct that the Deep State’s arrest of the Chinese company CFO was designed to scuttle the progress Trump had made with China. I was right.


26 posted on 12/06/2018 7:59:43 AM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: familyop

1. It was overvalued, by traditional measures, to start with.

2. The highest portion ever of passive investing - index funds - which merely follow like lemmings any signal-trend.

3. Get what gains or losses you can by year end.

4. Obtain cash and equivalents for investing after the market settles down over the spring.

The sum of all the above.


27 posted on 12/06/2018 8:03:34 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

Yes. She’s the daughter of a PLA big shot. Interestingly, though, security interests in the U.K. and several other important nations also see some the activities of Huawei as serious international threats.


28 posted on 12/06/2018 8:04:33 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop
many investors are government-connected lefties these days

And many firms, like Goldman Sachs

29 posted on 12/06/2018 8:07:01 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: bk1000

I think you nailed it, the big drops began around the time of the election, down 7% in a month. I also notice that now we have begun reporting on the stock market and the economy every news cycle for the first time in over a year...hum...why is that you ask? Simple because when the market goes down, it gives the press time to pile on Trump some more.

The dow right now is at 24400 down about 600+ today on top of tuesday’s debacle of 800 down. By historic standards there should be a pop in here to the upside soon, probably around 24000.


30 posted on 12/06/2018 8:11:17 AM PST by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

The woman who was arrested, by the way, is the daughter of the company’s founder. Some bigwigs in China may see the arrest as a some kind of calculated move against their national image and international influence.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I’ve wondered if there might be some continuing vestiges of empire in the national psyche over there.


31 posted on 12/06/2018 8:21:14 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop
Several factors involved...economy is not one of them...China may be about to have her throat bared for Trump to leverage down the road and OPEC deciding to buck us by lowering output are probably biggest factors and it's not just a US phenomenon.

Wouldn't worry about it.

32 posted on 12/06/2018 8:25:16 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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To: trebb

Yes. The complaining has begun here on oil prices, too.

Trump Throws Hail Mary Tweet on Eve of OPEC Meeting
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3711012/posts

Gas is less than two dollars a gallon at the pumps in parts of the South and Midwest, and holiday spending is higher.


33 posted on 12/06/2018 8:32:47 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Mouton

Well over 700 points down now (Dow).


34 posted on 12/06/2018 8:33:42 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Mouton

Drudge has his screaming headlines up about it, of course. That would seem to have some extra effect.


35 posted on 12/06/2018 8:35:33 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

Yep - $1.93 on the MS Gulf Coast...I paid $2.55 for premium the other day and it had been over $3.15 a few months ago.....as prices head up again, it will keep the Yellow Vests pissed at Macaroni...might be an egg shortage in France.....


36 posted on 12/06/2018 8:39:47 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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To: familyop

“It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I’ve wondered if there might be some continuing vestiges of empire in the national psyche over there.”

In my view, China’s never gotten over their empire tendencies. They’re still fully authoritarian, have elected a de-facto president-for-life with Xi, and are exerting their power and influence over their smaller neighbors and disputed territories. Same with Russia, although they’re considerably less powerful.


37 posted on 12/06/2018 8:43:04 AM PST by quasimodo_79
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To: familyop
This classical Conservative thinks she knows why. The restrictions off big Corps,so they are gearing up from their end. And the big money guys buy their stock.

But Trump policies have not resulted in an equivalent raise in spendable monies for even skilled workers ( I ask). For instance, Safeway workers told me they got a penny per hour raise.

I know, that as a senior, SS raise a joke, and 18 taxes will be more.

The raggy, slimy soft goods at Chicos to Walmart are ugly, and not worth a tenth of the raised prices.

Food is expensive and more people needing to use coupons and sales.

I live in both upper and lower middle class area by choice.

Faux conservatives in America still haven't learned. Empower the middle class, and you stabilize the economy. Same ol as now happening again, the system fights back.

Economics minus 101.

38 posted on 12/06/2018 8:44:32 AM PST by amihow
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To: trebb

I just remembered that much of the American-”based” manufacturing has been happening on foreign soil for a long time. Interesting, with bonds going up, too (prices up, yields down). We’ll see how some of the newer manufacturing on U.S. soil does.


39 posted on 12/06/2018 8:44:42 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Who cares? I do. Anyone with a 401K should care.

These investors are whimps/sic? Who do you mean? I invest, spouse invests, kids invest...

Anyone in my family who is employed could be impacted by lower company valuations, and if 700-point daily drops continue they won’t be the only ones facing layoffs.

I am wondering if this is not a market manipulation on part of anti-Trump Deep-Staters.


40 posted on 12/06/2018 8:45:36 AM PST by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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