Posted on 11/16/2018 10:18:34 AM PST by righttackle44
#CampFire video on Skyway this morning.
That's pretty common actually. I've seen fires restarted, burning for days underground in decayed matter and emerging on the other side of a fire line, but I've never seen metaled aluminum flow so far, or so many buildings sitting in the middle of large parking areas totally destroyed, while the only available fuel, it would seem, remains green nearby.
You're right, lots of odd things in this fire!
High wind and water drops could explain some of the oddities, but not all, IMO.
The melted aluminum that I saw in that fire and many others was from burned up cars. Houses burn pretty hot but not that hot. The trees were not nearly as flammable as the cars and houses.
If the aluminum came from the cars then the tires probably ignited and those would burn hot enough to then melt the rims.
The fuel was not the trees in town, it was thick brush outside of town that turned into ladder fuel to ignite trees outside of town. The resultant ember storm created spot fires all over town.
This was not some giant wall of flame that incinerated the town. Some parts of Napa valley had the wall of flame last year with more wind. But it doesn't take much wind to move embers and rain them down onto the town. Some fire personnel remained around town as it burned. There was nothing they could do except save themselves and a handful of residents.
One of things that strikes me as unusual is how far the molten aluminum flowed. In some cases, maybe as much as 8 feet or more, if you look at the video I posted above.
I saw pictures of diesel cars with melted rims. Gasoline too. It depends on how the fuel spills out and feeds the fire.
I’ve never seen such a stark example of it, but that’s what they mean by forest fires cleaning out the underbrush. Last season was VERY wet. In underbrush, that just means more kindling to burn hotter, because they dry out quickly. The big trees retain the moisture and are prevented from burning.
Not sure if this is why, but pavement is made out of oil.
Always more fun to believe in a conspiracy theory to explain the many things that don’t make sense at first glance.
Pine trees can turn into blow torches, as they outgas — ugh, I can’t think of the name of it — the stuff that turns to creosote when it burns. But they can also carry a LOT of water in their needles, which have far less surface area than leaves, and in their wood.
I watched that video. I showed it to my husband and asked him if he noticed anything strange. He said the trees arent burned, and look at that Verizon sign. No prompting on my part.
Thanks for the link, very informative.
When wood burns, the carbon in the wood turns to carbon dioxide and floats up the chimney. Other substances in the wood do not burn. They are carried aloft by the heated air and are deposited on the chimney walls as the air carrying them cools.
Not everything is a ‘Rothschild-Masonic-Illuminati-Name-Your-Pet-World-Dominator’ conspiracy ;-)
Below are what a normal burned car looks like:
Another normal burned car:
California burned car:
Maybe they make the rims out of lead in Cali?
Actually, I'm leaning toward wind/no wind being the difference.
Well, is right around the illuminati 11-11, dare we speculate on that.
Melted the rims?
Unreal.
Sorry, I don’t speak conspiracy jargon.
Homes and businesses burned because they were made of combustible materials.
The pine trees retain water and if they didn't have any dead branches to catch fire just road it out.
The problem was not trees dead or alive but the bush that acts like tinder and the winds which fanned the flames and spread embers.
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