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Lion Air flight crashes into the sea after taking off from Indonesian capital Jakarta
Sky News ^ | October 29 | Staff

Posted on 10/28/2018 8:04:14 PM PDT by PghBaldy

A Lion Air flight between Jakarta and an island off Sumatra has crashed, Indonesian search and rescue officials have said.

A search and rescue effort has been launched after the passenger jet lost contact 13 minutes after takeoff on Monday morning.

The Boeing 737-800 left the Indonesian capital at 6.20am and was headed north to arrive in Pangkal Pinang, on the island of Bangka, at

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TOPICS: Local News; Travel
KEYWORDS: 737; boeing; boeing737; crash; flightjt610; harvino; indonesia; jakarta; jt610; lionair; methamphetamines; plane
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Debris spotted by a tugboater.
1 posted on 10/28/2018 8:04:14 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

CNN Indonesia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwi1snJpVqA


2 posted on 10/28/2018 8:05:48 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy

“A search and rescue effort has been launched after the passenger jet lost contact 13 minutes after takeoff on Monday morning.”

13 minutes after takeoff.

That means foul play.


3 posted on 10/28/2018 8:06:56 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: PghBaldy

The Lion sleeps with the fishes tonight.


4 posted on 10/28/2018 8:08:56 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Blue House Sue

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/pk-lqp#1e5ff318

looks like it never got above 5000 feet

plane was only 2 months old:

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Boeing/737/PK-LQP-Lion-Airlines/98qgSk0O


5 posted on 10/28/2018 8:10:07 PM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: Blue House Sue

If so, what a terrible way to make some evil point.


6 posted on 10/28/2018 8:12:54 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: UNGN

That says seven minutes.

A brand new 737-800.

That’s really odd.


7 posted on 10/28/2018 8:14:49 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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lion-air

Looks like they were having altitude control problems the entire short flight.

8 posted on 10/28/2018 8:17:15 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: UNGN

Takeoff radar track is funky. It went to 2000 feet on the climb out, then it dropped to 1475 before slowly climbing back to 5000 feet.

This plane has the new LEAP’s on it. The radar track could be an anomaly, but if its real, it could be an engine out on takeoff.


9 posted on 10/28/2018 8:18:34 PM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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"An official from Indonesia's transport ministry has said there were 178 people on board, including staff."
10 posted on 10/28/2018 8:19:49 PM PDT by TruthWillWin ([[[MSM]]])
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To: UNGN

The new LEAp engines are greener, more fuel efficient. Can’t imagine they’ve not been tested with heavy loads in humid climates?


11 posted on 10/28/2018 8:23:13 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education!)
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On previous flight out of Jakarta, radar traces had the plane climbing out from 270 knots accelerating to 350 Knots by 15,000 ft.

On this flight it only got above 300 knots in a dive and never made it to 350 knots. This doesn’t seem the performance of 2 working engines.


12 posted on 10/28/2018 8:44:33 PM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: The Westerner

The pilot probably had about the same number of hours as the plane. Inexperience is a big problem.


13 posted on 10/28/2018 8:45:28 PM PDT by Oldexpat (Jobs Not Mobs)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Hush my darling, don’t fear my darling...


14 posted on 10/28/2018 8:51:57 PM PDT by moovova
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To: Blue House Sue

Lion has earned a ranking as one of the least safe airlines. I’d say probably not foul play.

Here’s a picture of an earlier Lion Air flight

http://indosurflife.com/2016/02/9-out-of-10-worst-airlines-worldwide-are-from-indonesia/


15 posted on 10/28/2018 8:53:54 PM PDT by PAR35
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That and the usual previous experience was an F16... where the solution to every problem (except low fuel) was, level the wings, point the nose up and hit the afterburner.


16 posted on 10/28/2018 8:55:15 PM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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Troubles me because I just read that the airline I usually fly on bought these new engines for their long distance routes. Honestly, I always liked the idea of big Rolls Royce engines. Why would we prefer better fuel economy when sometimes power is the difference between life and death?

I’m not an engineer nor a pilot but I’ve flown enough to understand a few things about planes!

RIP to the poor souls lost at sea.


17 posted on 10/28/2018 9:16:48 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education.)
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To: Oldexpat
Yes, I used to follow on the Aviation forum before the owners made it so cheesy. It was after the crash out of Suribaya (sp?). There is a superb fellow named Gerry who is involved with the industry over in Malaysia. He is the one to follow after these crashes. But I haven't been back on the site since the redecoration, Apparently, not only the local pilots but also those in Red China are known to be inadequately trained. At least, that's what the pilots on the forum say.
18 posted on 10/28/2018 9:23:18 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education.)
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To: moovova

So sad. I’m so very sorry for all of them and families.


19 posted on 10/28/2018 9:28:01 PM PDT by Kay
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To: UNGN
A brand new plane with the latest technological wizardry crashes not long after take off. I think I will go with Jemaah Islamiyah over a technical glitch.
20 posted on 10/28/2018 9:55:50 PM PDT by libh8er
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