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Janis Ian - At Seventeen (Live, 1976)
Youtube ^ | 10/3/2018 | Janis Ian

Posted on 10/03/2018 7:08:44 PM PDT by mdittmar

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To: mdittmar

The teen years have got to be some of the toughest years of a person’s life.

Before adolescence everything still seems possible, your looks, your height, your social status - you’re a kid, what you will become is still full of possibilities.

Around 15, 16, 17 the die is pretty much cast, the hopes of a few years before have either been realized or more likely shattered, and you’re not mature enough yet to deal with the disappointment.

It takes another decade to accept who you are and make the best of it.

In many ways those years can be tougher on girls.


21 posted on 10/03/2018 9:53:28 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: mdittmar

When Janis was 14 years old, she wrote her first big hit “Societies’ Child” Released three times from 1965 to 1967.
It was about an interracial romance forbidden by the girl’s mother, and frowned upon by her peers and teachers. That was a taboo subject back then in many areas of the USA.
Janis received hate mail and death threats in response to that song. A radio station in Atlanta that played the song was burned down in the summer of 1967.

There were many race riots across the states during the summer of 1967. I personally recall the events in Detroit Mich. during that same time. It was during that summer that I learned what the word “Sniper” meant, never having used the word before.


22 posted on 10/03/2018 9:54:04 PM PDT by lee martell (AT)
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To: Signalman
Ian was the prototype for the wimpering liberal snowflakes of today.

There might be something to that. I liked the song a long time ago, and now I listen to it expecting that I will have the same reaction, but I guess I don't. She's wallowing in her depression.

23 posted on 10/03/2018 10:49:32 PM PDT by TChad
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To: metmom

metmom

Many years ago I Married that so called “ugly duckling”
She was the most Beautiful Woman in the World to me.
Funny thing... from 18 to 45 (and 3 kids) she got significantly Hotter.
Then when I’m in my mid 50’s and she in her mid 40’s... she decided she could do better and left (Scorched Earth Take Everything type Divorce followed)
She left 10 years ago... I can’t help it, I still Love her... But I can NEVER take her back, I cannot afford her (she destroyed me Financially) even if her new Husband dies or she leaves him and takes him to the Cleaners like she did me...
So I guess... “I learned the Truth at 55... “
(Got to be a Country Song in there somewhere) so I will just keep on Lovin MY Life ;^)


24 posted on 10/03/2018 10:52:37 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Damn the Torpedoes! Full Speed Ahead!)
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To: mdittmar

Major heroine of The Sixties.


25 posted on 10/03/2018 11:34:15 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: TexasTransplant
“(Got to be a Country Song in there somewhere)”

Back in HS and college, a buddy and I would go on road trips and made up a “country” song. Adding verses when a trip had something memorable. It starts off with:

I sold my wife
to the Salvation Army
Got four packs of Marlboros
And an old Stetson hat.

Folks say I'm crazy
But I disagree
For the first time in six years
I'm finally free...

26 posted on 10/03/2018 11:45:51 PM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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To: metmom

I was a teenager at the time and was hearing about how controversial the song was before I heard it on the radio.

When I finally heard it I could not argue with it like I wanted to going into the experience.

I still have the song on my 3000 song playlist and I identify with it. I know there are real people out there who shared the same experience and I feel some of it in my own life experience.


27 posted on 10/03/2018 11:48:15 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODYS BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: mdittmar

I can say the same as your comment .

though in reflection as a few days ago

it doesn’t matter any more & those who thought

they had it “goin’ on” probably did but in the

long run?

Didn’t think so.


28 posted on 10/03/2018 11:50:52 PM PDT by thesligoduffyflynns (get off my lawn)
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To: mdittmar

I can say the same as your comment .

though in reflection as a few days ago

it doesn’t matter any more & those who thought

they had it “goin’ on” probably did but in the

long run?

Didn’t think so.


29 posted on 10/03/2018 11:52:06 PM PDT by thesligoduffyflynns (get off my lawn)
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To: Nextrush; Tired of Taxes

Me too.

Ravaged faces, not tall (but thin at least), hand-me-downs, never called in choosing sides (and that was NOT because of lack of athletic ability), .......

And it’s not a snowflake thing. not the *everyone in the world has a cell phone but me, whimper*, kind of thing. Kids can be exceedingly cruel and when you’re the new kid in town, you bear the brunt of it.


30 posted on 10/04/2018 2:09:49 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: thesligoduffyflynns

I think the thing that started to snap me out of it was when I was in HS and I happened to be walking in the hall during class for some reason and I passed one of the *popular* girls sitting in the hall in tears with some friends trying to console her cause she had just learned she was pregnant.


31 posted on 10/04/2018 2:12:49 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom

yeah I hear ya’ and 25-30 yrs later all those popular people who show up at hs reunions are just plain out washed up ‘nuffinks...............they played their cards too fast & too loose;living out too loud.

A paean


32 posted on 10/04/2018 5:45:11 AM PDT by thesligoduffyflynns (get off my lawn)
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To: mdittmar

Bookmark


33 posted on 10/04/2018 5:58:36 AM PDT by LouisianaJoanof Arc
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To: metmom

thank-you, yes, I remember


34 posted on 10/04/2018 6:20:06 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Signalman

The song taught us that we were not alone. We put on our big girl panties and moved on.


35 posted on 10/04/2018 6:23:54 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: eccentric

I think most girls identify with the song on some level.


36 posted on 10/04/2018 9:12:51 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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A missed point: All of these bad feelings are happening within the institution of the public schools where your troubles will be magnified. Well to do children will dress better and just look happier-they are more loved. Poor kids will wear their shortcomings on their sleeve. They’ll get into fights with each other while the other kids watch. Reinforcement of the status quo. One solution is to blow up the public schools.


37 posted on 10/04/2018 9:19:37 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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