Posted on 09/25/2018 7:40:30 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
After watching the events of the last 7-10 days unfold I really feel a need to post something to get some things on the table here. Some of the posts I'm seeing here reflect a lot of venting without a lot of thought, and the references to various media reports and TV "talking heads" make it obvious to me that a lot of folks should step back and think about a few things related to this Kavanaugh nomination process.
I'll lay this out as a list of items that are either factual or are probably strongly likely to be true:
1. The Democrats have probably lined up quite a number of so-called "victims" with accusations against Kavanaugh. This was probably done months ago -- and the process may have started YEARS ago when Kavanaugh began his career on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit.
2. This approach was modeled on the Anita Hill charade from 1991, and even now you can see an almost identical chain of events unfolding.
3. The list of credible accusations probably got very short very quickly. And after a lot of thorough vetting, the Democrats and their special-interest groups probably came up almost completely dry.
4. The Christine "Buzzy" Ford allegation was clearly a last-ditch attempt to delay -- or even derail -- the nomination ... just as the Anita Hill allegation was.
5. The allegation that Buzzy Ford has made dates back so far, and her story has so many holes in it, that it would have been laughed out of the HR office of any company in America.
6. Up until a couple of days ago I believed the Democrats were trying to delay the process and string it out for weeks, months, or indefinitely. Maybe they were at one time, but now I believe they have TWO main objectives: (A) Keep Buzzy Ford (or anyone else) from ever making a formal allegation in anything that constitutes a legitimate legal process (testimony, sworn affidavite, etc.), and (B) Get Kavanaugh confirmed as quickly as possible.
7. Item 6(B) sounds outlandish but it suddenly became important for the Democrats to do this. This is because Buzzy Ford is losing credibility by the hour as a formal witness but will be given tremendous credibility as an "aggrieved victim" in interviews to be carried on 60 Minutes, the Today show, Loser Holt's Dateline NBC, etc.
8. See Item #7. I suspect the interviews with Ford have already been taped. They probably have 4-6 hours of interviews that are ready to be cut up into 10-20 segments on network news shows like the ones I listed above. But these interviews can't be broadcast on TV until AFTER Kavanaugh is confirmed ... because they can't air an interview on TV and then have Ford's story shredded in a Senate committee hearing under cross-examination.
So if you are President Trump, Mitch McConnell and Charles Grassley, what is the best strategy for playing both the formal Senate process and the parallel political process play out?
I believe we are already seeing how this is being deployed. It is a two-pronged approach from two different angles: by attacking the Democrats on procedure and defending Kavanaugh politically.
Look at the Senate for an example of the procedural approach. Everyone seems to think Grassley is botching this thing because they're impatient about the process, but his role is to make sure the process plays out correctly and attack the Democrats and Ford's legal team over their violation of procedural protocols. It's IMPORTANT to remember this, folks: It's not the Senate's job to "defend" Kavanaugh. It's their job to carry out a legitimate confirmation process and publicly maintain a very high level of impartiality.
The procedural side of this actually provides a lot of political cover for the second angle of approach, which is the personal defense of Kavanaugh as a man and as a nominee. This is not the Senate's job, but the job of President Trump. Kavanaugh is simply a tool in his own defense, but he is TRUMP's nominee, not the nominee of the Republicans in the U.S. Senate.
I think the Republicans are actually playing this perfectly. Despite all the ventilating we're tempted to do about Grassley and his committee management process, he's actually doing exactly what he and McConnell need to do to facilitate Kavanaugh's confirmation while shielding themselves from damaging political blowback -- especially from moderate/independent women voters.
With this in mind, I'd say that confirming Kavanaugh quickly might be the WORST thing the Republicans can do right now.
Instead, the best course of action is to lay low, give as much credibility to the "victims" as necessary, and drag the process out until it becomes more and more clear that the whole thing is a charade and NONE of these "victims" are really willing to testify. In the meantime, the only thing the Democrats can do is call to delay the process because they already know their "victims" will be easily shredded if they DO testify. In the meantime, the 5-6 weeks of endless attacks in the media from weeping "victims" who were allegedly denied a chance to tell their story to the Senate Judiciary Committee never happens.
If Kavanaugh is an eminently qualified man and has an outstanding personal reputation that will shine through in any televised process ... and this assorted group of Mos Eisley-like mutants who have been assembled on the Democrat side to attack Kavanaugh are peddling accusations that have no credibility ... then the best course of action for the GOP is to have the accusations debunked in a very public way AS CLOSE TO ELECTION DAY AS POSSIBLE.
True. I agree with your point that the dems look like fools but they never had any shame anyway.
But I wasn’t just referring to Ford. If the dems bring in more accusers then it drags this thing out and makes it harder for the RINOs to go along. There is no way to prove or disprove these kind of 34 year old accusations. It is his word against theirs. IF you get multiple accusers it changes things. We will see if the other accusers get any traction.
But what about reasonable doubt and don’t the accusers have to prove their accusations? No. This isn’t a trial. This is politics and it all comes down to what those three RINOs think.
Doing the right thing can never be wrong
Confirming Kavenaugh and have him on the bench now is the right thing
The Senate must vote and confirm before the week is out.
The way to tackle this problem is to be patient. It's not a good idea to go into a full Senate floor debate with "victims" not having some sort of hearing, because that just gives the Dems more ammo for the midterms.
Wouldn't that be nice! But we are not talking about intellectual “movements”. The “#MeToo movement” and ther “resistance movement” are not being destroyed or even weakened by the Kavanaugh confirmation. If anything they are being strengthened. This is political and it is emotional. The Democrats are creating a “new normal” for the level of nastiness and dishonesty in political discourse. If you do not see what is going on, it is probably because you live or keep yourself in a well insulated situation. My wife and I unfortunately are right in the middle of this crap.
Exactly right.
Well said.
Remember, Dems project onto others what they are doing soon. Thus “so dangerous were the threats to Ford that she is afraid now to testify” means they will soon endganger the Kavanaugh family physically with probably minimal security.
May God protect the Kavanaughs.
The problem for the spawn of Satan is that no one will pay attention to the details beyond the first two, maybe three drunken lying sluts. And the first two, ford and ramirez, are pretty ridiculously far-fetched. So, the public at large will frame more accusations as more of the same. “Oh, democrats throwing some more sh!t against the wall to see if it’ll stick. How 1980s.”
This is why the spawn of Satan are doing their best to discredit and shut-up the snake avennati with its latest outrageous lie. Because if it’s able to get heard above the din, a third provably false allegation fatally destroys every subsequent allegation, satanic opposition to Judge Kavanaugh, and potentially, a bunch of dem senate seats, and even control of the House.
Yes, the Dems are stonewalling. They want to stonewall to the election and use that to energize their more rabid base. The Republicans are going along with some delaying. They obviously can't do that forever, but they can delay somewhat without a midterm cost. There are far too many impatient people saying, "if they don't confirm Kavanaugh right now, I'm never voting again" or words like that. My answer is simple: yes, I agree he needs to be confirmed before the election. But to hear accuser #1 first makes good political sense.
With this in mind, I'd say that confirming Kavanaugh quickly might be the WORST thing the Republicans can do right now.Instead, the best course of action is to lay low, give as much credibility to the "victims" as necessary, and drag the process out until it becomes more and more clear that the whole thing is a charade and NONE of these "victims" are really willing to testify.
How long do you expect this to last? One-third of the Senate is itching to get home to campaign.
In the meantime, the only thing the Democrats can do is call to delay the process because they already know their "victims" will be easily shredded if they DO testify.They will need an ongoing supply of victims to support ongoing calls for delay. As it stands now, the calls for delay are hollow and weak.
Republicans don't have free rein here, either. Say what you will, there is still a large less-informed base that sees apparent capitulation as apparent weakness. The more that Republicans "strategically" drag this out, the more they might depress a recent uptick in motivation. We don't want that to happen, either.
In the meantime, the 5-6 weeks of endless attacks in the media from weeping "victims" who were allegedly denied a chance to tell their story to the Senate Judiciary Committee never happens.I think that happens regardless. It will just move to the whisper campaign, sustained by MSM talking heads who will just churn the story over and over.
I think that equal consideration should be given to the strategy of getting Kavanaugh confirmed quickly, so that our side can get going on the campaign trail to leverage the antics so far. We don't need to see any more, we have seen enough.
Our side needs to begin attacking the 24 Senate seats that Democrats are defending this cycle. Our side needs to hit the road with ads claiming that this is what Democrat rule of Washington would look like EVERYWHERE if Republicans don't turn out in November.
This is what Republicans need to finally nationalize the mid-term elections. They need to run on the visuals of the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing and ask some very pointed questions:
1. Do you want to see this repeated when Congress takes up social media censorship?2. Do you want to see this repeated when Congress takes up President Trumps immigration reform again?
3. Do you want to see this repeated when Congress takes up President Trump's trade deals?
4. Do you want to see this repeated when President Trump nominates future replacements to his Cabinet?
5. Do you want to see this repeated when President Trump gets another Supreme Court vacancy?
We need our PACs out there now posing these questions in contrast to any weeping victims the Democrats may put up over the Kavanaugh confirmation. People are already tired of them.
We need to get our people recessed and on the campaign trail, so this national event can become decentralized again into individual races with individual faces, but with a common theme of not letting the radicals do to the entire government what they just did to Kavanaugh.
-PJ
Yes, but doing the right thing at the wrong time is kind of stupid.
Setting up a table in front of your local supermarket on a warm Saturday morning to collect donations for a local child battling cancer is great. Doing it in the middle of a blizzard is idiotic.
Now? No. October 1? Yes.
THIS JUST IN: Porn lawyer Avenatti said he has a third woman who will come forward with proven allegations, though he has not provided specifics.
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Michael Avenatti Locks Account After Admitting Kavanaugh Accuser Might Not Come Forward
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3690525/posts
““Oh, democrats throwing some more sh!t against the wall to see if it’ll stick. How 1980s.””
Some will think that. Many others don’t follow the details and just catch headlines here and there. All they will know is a SC nominee has three accusers claiming some sexual related activity.
But again - it doesn’t matter what anyone thinks except the three RINOs. They have to be appeased or Kavanaugh will not be confirmed.
We don’t need another vanity
If you do, then please remove this thread.
If you don't, then I don't give a sh!t what you think.
:-P
There are 23 Democrat, 8 Republican, and 2 Independent seats among the 33 regular Senate elections being held this year.
Who stands to gain the most if the Senate stays in session through October?
I'm talking about balancing the benefit of ongoing antics in the Judiciary Committee with taking the time to build the national message to keep the Trump base motivated, and to convince disgusted Democrats to keep the House and Senate in Republican hands.
I'll add another question:
6. Do you want to see Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi bring the same circus to impeachment hearings against President Trump?7. Does THIS represent YOU?
We can't just rely on the coverage. We need the time to get out people out of Washington and begin building this consensus message on the campaign trail.
That's my opinion.
-PJ
Backfire the RAT's own strategy on them? Interesting prospect. But whichever way it goes, we must make everyone aware (by constant repetition) that the whole thrust of the RAT opposition is to protect Roe v. Wade. The Democrat party Prime directive is KILL THE BABY!
Stay classy
The political theater here works well for the GOP if the Democrats continue to look like damn fools. I suspect the Democrats already know this. That's why none of them would show their faces on some of those Sunday talk shows, and Creepy Porn Lawyer Avenatti locked his Twitter account today.
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