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Unseen Letters from JFK’s Sister Rosemary, Who Underwent a Lobotomy, Reveal Depth of Her 'Loss
People ^ | 09/13/2018 | LIZ MCNEIL

Posted on 09/15/2018 11:23:57 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen

This Thursday marks what would have been the 100th birthday of Rosemary Kennedy, the eldest daughter of Joseph P. Kennedy and his wife, Rose.

For many years, the story of JFK’s sister, who had an undiagnosed mental disability and was lobotomized at age 23, was shrouded in mystery.

A vivacious young woman with a sweet disposition, Rosemary’s life was dramatically altered when her father decided to have her undergo a pre-frontal lobotomy in November 1941, a procedure that left her with the mental capacities of a toddler and requiring round-the-clock care

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; History
KEYWORDS: jfksister; kennedys; lobotomy; walterfreeman
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To: Mr. K

“..basically stuck an ice pick into an eye socket and swished it around cutting off the front of the brain....”

I’d read somewhere that the Soviets did that same thing in their “mental institutes” to political dissidents to basically shut them up.

Human beings can be pretty despicable.


41 posted on 09/15/2018 12:50:30 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Calvin Locke

“...probably bipolar, and had a tendency to be promiscuous....”

Awful. That poor girl.

He sounded like a REAL great guy.../s


42 posted on 09/15/2018 12:51:39 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Vaquero; Calvin Locke

RE Why:
See Calvin’s post #6.

Makes it all the more an insidious act.


43 posted on 09/15/2018 12:52:50 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: TexasGator

Thank you, Tex.

I know what it is, just didn’t realize it was done back in 1941.

As I said in another reply, I know the Soviets did it to political prisoners in their “mental institutions” - which were basically places they sent anyone who disagreed with communism.


44 posted on 09/15/2018 12:54:30 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Bell Bouy II

No surprise there.


45 posted on 09/15/2018 12:55:16 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: cherry

“..just because they aren’t good at social interaction does not mean they don’t want it...”

Understood. And it’s surely NOT an excuse to scramble their brain even further with such a barbaric surgery.

Just an awful thing...


46 posted on 09/15/2018 12:57:32 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Camelot was a house of horrors. Joe would do anything and kill anyone to make a son President.


47 posted on 09/15/2018 12:58:39 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Chickensoup

“...violent, bizarre or dangerous cases of Mental illness....”

See post #6 for a possible explanation of why they had that done to her.

Not good...


48 posted on 09/15/2018 12:58:42 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: oblomov

I guess Old Joe didn’t apply the same standards to his sons.

My guess is that she had a mild intellectual disability. It is not uncommon that this kind of disability can cause impulse control problems, including the sexual kind.

FYI, I had an aunt around the same age as Rose Kennedy who also had an intellectual disability. She was kept at home and watched very closely until she died at the age of 26.


49 posted on 09/15/2018 1:02:07 PM PDT by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

When looking at the Kennedy women I noticed that Rosemary looked like the sweeter of the women, like she wasn’t part of their evil. Yes, she was ‘slow,’ for her age. She probably picked up the sexual cues from the open predatory behavior of the men in the family, and being ‘slow,’ the family wasn’t able to train her up on the ‘social skills’ of the day. Doing that to her was the only way to stop her from doing what would come natural to a young beautiful woman. Daddy Kennedy and the boys were truly vile. Mama Kennedy was actually quite evil in her own way; enabling their behavior for her gain in Social Standing. It’s said that the terrible medical act done to Rosemary was done without her approval and apparently was the only open act of anger between her and Daddy Kennedy. Having open affairs would be okay; damaging poor Rosemary for some reason actually hit a cord in Mama Kennedy. Poor child. She really did not look like the other Kennedys. Soft features and an open smile.


50 posted on 09/15/2018 1:07:55 PM PDT by Notthereyet (Notthereyet)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I’d rather have a free bottle in front of me than a prefrontal lobotomy.


51 posted on 09/15/2018 1:13:31 PM PDT by W. (Boom!)
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To: NFHale
>> the Soviets did that same thing in their “mental institutes”<<

Was it ever done to prisoners in the US?. I never forgot that haunting scene from "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest".
52 posted on 09/15/2018 1:16:05 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen ((Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong))
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To: Notthereyet

From what I’ve read about Mother Rose, she had some deviant behaviors of her own. It is written that she went to a next door neighbor’s swimming pool in Palm Beach (when she had a pool at her own residence) to swim naked. Seems rather voyeuristic. Just proves the old adage that money doesn’t buy class.


53 posted on 09/15/2018 1:16:12 PM PDT by taxpayerfatigue (Taxpayer Fatigue)
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To: Kid Shelleen

“...ever done to prisoners in the US...”

Good question. But I really don’t know.

I remember that movie too, and Jack Nicholson’s slack face when they brought him in afterwards.


54 posted on 09/15/2018 1:24:06 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

One of my favorite movies. Nurse Ratched was the original Hillary.


55 posted on 09/15/2018 1:28:31 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen ((Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong))
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To: tomkat

.. and FDR’s pick for the UK job, by the way.
Birds of a feather, ehh ?

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FDR fired him when he saw how pro-Nazi he was.


56 posted on 09/15/2018 1:29:27 PM PDT by laplata (Leftists/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

RE Ratched:

Oh, she was a miserable POS, wasn’t she... for sure.

Actress played the part very well, very believable. One wanted to smack her face whenever she came on screen.


57 posted on 09/15/2018 1:35:02 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Ironically, Rosemary was the prettiest of the Kennedy
girls.


58 posted on 09/15/2018 1:40:13 PM PDT by markoman (Cautiously pessimistic.)
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To: NFHale

That was Louise Fletcher and she won Best Actress for that role.


59 posted on 09/15/2018 1:42:14 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen ((Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong))
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To: Kid Shelleen

She did a great job.

Nicholson really deviled the Hell out of her.


60 posted on 09/15/2018 1:44:07 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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