The Danger of "Q" - Several Reasons

Twitter ^ | September 14, 2018 | Carpe Donktum

[JME_FAN]

Why is QAnon a danger to the Trump Presidency? Here are six well-reasoned points, provided by the meme blogger known as Carpe Donktum ...

1. With introduction of the Secret Plan and the "Kabuki Theater" that is required to believe in the plan, Q has placed himself in a position to "interpret" Trump. This undermines the power of the President's words and allows Q to change the message.

2. The net effect of "The plan" is a calming effect on MAGA people who SHOULD BE mad as hell about the lack of support the President is getting from his AG. It also numbs many to legitimate danger that the Mueller Investigation poses, especially if November goes poorly for MAGA

3. Q at it's very core lies about who he/it is, we do not know or understand the motives for this lie. Therefore we cannot predict how the lie could evolve and where the liar at the center of it might lead his followers.

4. Q has red pilled many about certain information that was already known to many of us. That's good. What is not good however is the rampant and reckless conspiracy theories that have been spawned after people with a little bit of knowledge but not much judgement, run with it.

5. Q has brought out the very worst in some it's followers, prompting them to attack any non-believers viciously. It has fed paranoia that many people that have played a vital role in maga have been deep state plants, simply because they do not believe Q is real.

6. Q has given hope to those who do not yet deserve it. Q says, trust the plan, watch the show, it's all taken care of. There is no hope without hard work and sacrifice. We need every single person to be on the front line fighting, not sitting back waiting for a savior.

[magglepuss]

Qanon doesn’t rise to the level of importance for the President to take any interest in it, or comment on it in any way.

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Well if that is true, then why are you always on q threads if the “hoax” is so unimportant, why not ignore then? I see you on this thread, you are also responding to someone on another q thread. You certainly seem to think it is a big deal. Are you correct that this is a big deal and needs to be stopped, or is POTUS right, no big deal. or he too thinks it is a big deal and wants this info out there?

[Jamestown1630]

Meanwhile, I've got to cut the grass, trim the trees, finish putting lights in the garage, redoing the bathroom before the holidays, get the pickup fixed, finish organizing my workshop, instead of trying to figure out what the hell you folks are talking about.

I've always thought this was one of the weirdest things about the 'Q' devotees. Many of them don't seem to have lives outside of Q-posting; and are constantly remarking about the consuming, exhausting nature of their heroic 'research efforts'...as if this sacrifice makes them appear more sincere, authentic, convincing.

All very fishy to an average person living an average life.

(Maybe some of them are just machines, after all...)

[Windflier]

"Qanon doesn’t rise to the level of importance for the President to take any interest in it, or comment on it in any way."

Well if that is true, then why are you always on q threads if the “hoax” is so unimportant, why not ignore then?

I've got far less weighty matters to attend to than the President, so I have the luxury of paying attention to this nuttiness.

I mostly comment on it because this kookery has invaded my home on the internet. It's a bother, and I can't wait for it to sputter out.

[nopardons]

I usually never resurrect dead threads;however, I'll make an exception this time.

You've been here long enough to remember when this site had many erudite posters, who wrote well, but you never were one of that group. Neither did you ever make much an impression and your nic isn't one I remember from those days.

There are still a few posters who write well, here, and they write in a similar way as I do.

FYI...."you lot" is just another way of saying your "ilk"/your "group". It's common usage and it speaks volumes, about you and your abject lack of knowledge of rudimentary English prose, that you don't know this and, in turns, have decided to ridicule and heap calumny upon me.

[magglepuss]

You just said on another thread that it is dividing the base. If true, then I think that would rise to the level of a single tweet, don’t you?

By the way, I think your right about dividing people. I read q drops because I am always learning some new connection I hadn’t made in the past, or some new/old bit of news I had forgotten about.

So what motivates you to stop me from either learning or connecting more dots than I knew before q?

[Revel]

I just looked it up. It is British English. But I am not British. I am an American. You must be British.

[Jamestown1630]

Some of us are old enough that we learned so-called ‘Briticisms’ from our American parents and grandparents...along with being drilled in the American Founding and government.

[Revel]

That could be. But I am not a kid, and I have never heard or read that phrase in all my life. So it must be pretty obscure in this day and age.

[Jamestown1630]

You’ve never heard anyone say ‘you lot’?

I’ve never heard anyone say ‘youse’, unless it was in a movie, or my husband was making fun of people he heard using it in his youth. But I understand that it’s quite common in some areas of the US.

Y’all take care, now.

[nopardons]

Many of us Americans learned to speak and write proper English prose from our parents and school teachers, who were also American and proud to be Americans.

Just because you read something on line, doesn't mean that it's true/the ONLY truth of the matter.

You may be an American, but a poorly educated one, who makes asinine assumptions about others whom you don't know.

[nopardons]

True and thanks for the corroboration.

I pronounce several words as some Brits and Europeans do, such as "restaurant", because it's the way that many generations of Americans also said it and some of us and our progeny still do.

[Windflier]

You just said on another thread that it is dividing the base. If true, then I think that would rise to the level of a single tweet, don’t you?

When the division reaches the point where the base can't unify at the ballot box, then it will be serious enough for the President to comment on it.

...what motivates you to stop me from either learning or connecting more dots than I knew before q?

Stop you? Where have I said anything about stopping Qbists from following their pastime?

I don't care what you study, but quit pestering others about their opinions of it. I choose not to believe that Q is real, and I say that here because this is a free and open public forum. I am allowed to state my views about the subject.

If I say I don't believe it, you've got three choices:

1. Ignore me and move on.
2. Engage me in thoughtful debate.
3. Attack me for disagreeing with you.

Too many Qbists choose the third option, and this is what has caused the majority of non-believers to consider Qanon to be a kooky cult.

[nopardons]

It's NOT "obscure" at all!

But obviously you are not only poorly educated but also not well read, nor culturally astute.

I bet that there are many things, which are unknown/obscure to you, but which millions of others know about.

[Jamestown1630]

I was raised by a Granny born in 1890. At almost 65, I can’t get rid of all the anachronistic Tidewater expressions; or quit spelling words ending in ‘-or’ as they were spelled in the old books I grew up with...

English is English. People forget where we came from, and how long it takes for language to really change all over.

(But it’s sad to me that television has made such inroads on making everyone sound and express themselves so blandly the same...)

[Revel]

Quack!

[Revel]

By the way; in modern English we say “You all(y’all)”, or “All of you”.

Did you know that you are Curmudgeon?

y’all

[Jamestown1630]

Too many Qbists choose the third option

I don't know about 'dividing the base', but the Q stuff certainly seems to be dumbing-down FR and coarsening the tone here. I have seen people spoken to and treated in Q discussions in ways that I never saw them treated here before.

Even during the prez primary season, we didn't see that much 'GFY' and similar expressions as we're seeing in Q discussions.

(And the Q people also often exercise a peculiar kind of superciliousness that seems an even uglier affect than the insinuated profanity does...)

[nopardons]

I grew up very close to my grandparents and knew my great grandmother ( she died when I was almost 8 ), and most of her siblings. All of them and my parents and all of my relatives' friends, were well spoken, had extensive vocabularies and never "spoke down" to children. So the kids all learned to speak a certain way.

Yes, English IS English and has always been the unoffical language of this nation. And as a matter of fact, many of our regional accents are the way that the earliest colonist sounded, but is now a long gone accent in the regions that they came from in England, now.

T.V., movies, and so-called music has now lowered, into the gutter, the English language; most of now into garbles, low class ghettoese.

English is a beautiful language, filled to the brim with marvelous, expressive words, which far too few people, today ever use, because they don't even know any of them.

[Jamestown1630]

When a Yankee addressed her as ‘y’all’, my Granny would be offended, and set them straight.

One never refers to one person as ‘y’all’. It’s properly reserved for addressing two or more.

:-)

[nopardons]

Taken to making animals sounds now, because you are bereft of enough words to post your muddled thoughts.