Q post 2037
We will do our job to protect the vote.
Will you do yours?
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
Q
Posted on 09/14/2018 8:53:50 PM PDT by JME_FAN
Why is QAnon a danger to the Trump Presidency? Here are six well-reasoned points, provided by the meme blogger known as Carpe Donktum ...
1. With introduction of the Secret Plan and the "Kabuki Theater" that is required to believe in the plan, Q has placed himself in a position to "interpret" Trump. This undermines the power of the President's words and allows Q to change the message.
2. The net effect of "The plan" is a calming effect on MAGA people who SHOULD BE mad as hell about the lack of support the President is getting from his AG. It also numbs many to legitimate danger that the Mueller Investigation poses, especially if November goes poorly for MAGA
3. Q at it's very core lies about who he/it is, we do not know or understand the motives for this lie. Therefore we cannot predict how the lie could evolve and where the liar at the center of it might lead his followers.
4. Q has red pilled many about certain information that was already known to many of us. That's good. What is not good however is the rampant and reckless conspiracy theories that have been spawned after people with a little bit of knowledge but not much judgement, run with it.
5. Q has brought out the very worst in some it's followers, prompting them to attack any non-believers viciously. It has fed paranoia that many people that have played a vital role in maga have been deep state plants, simply because they do not believe Q is real.
6. Q has given hope to those who do not yet deserve it. Q says, trust the plan, watch the show, it's all taken care of. There is no hope without hard work and sacrifice. We need every single person to be on the front line fighting, not sitting back waiting for a savior.
“I think the President’s got much more important things to do, than debunk some ridiculous internet fad. “
Every time I here that then I think about how ignorant it is.
1. You have an entity on the internet claiming to be endorsed and connected to Trump. Acting on behalf of Trump.
2. That entity is making all kinds of claims about things that Trump is doing on both a national and international level. And claims about other officials as well. Even things that could effect foreign relations and justice.
3. That entity is claiming to have the highest level of clearance.
4. The media has had a field day about how fake and damaging Q is.
5. a whole bunch of other things.
And you think that Trump would not find it important enough to tweet about it if it were fake. That he wouldn’t want to put a stop to it.
You would have to be on crack to believe that.
Carpe Donktum is a buzzkiller.
Q is Nostradamus.
If half of freeperdom wants to interpret the daily chicken entrails of Q I say more power to them in their venerable practice of haruspicy.
I find Q’s oracular pronouncements impenetrable, but I don’t see why we oughta burn the Q cult at the stake.
When he wasn’t talking about the Chinese. :-)
Unbelievers! Heretics! Blasphemers! Deniers! Burn them all!
You may not like it, but that's how the Qanon community looks to many of us outside the bubble. You people are so invested in Q on a personal level, you come off as religious cultists to others.
Q post 2037
We will do our job to protect the vote.
Will you do yours?
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
Q
We shall see. If you see a sudden wave of justice then just remember that Q said it first.
Personally I feel like the the guy who first said the world is Round, and all the flat earthers laughed and mocked because they couldn’t imagine such a thing.
And your one of those people who would have believed that the earth was flat. And would have defended it tooth and nail.
Most of you have not put one bit of effort into figuring out if Q is real or not. Read a couple of posts maybe. You just know that its not.
Qanon just isn't as important to the rest of the world as it is to the faithful inside the bubble.
For you folks, Qanon is literally the linchpin of President Trump's administration, his entire agenda, and the fate of Western Civilization.
You got to where you are on nothing but pure belief. You see what you want to see in Q's cryptic quatrains. He's become a quasi religious seer to many people, and they've taken on the color of a cult.
This is quite visible to those who haven't taken the plunge. Not so much to those who've accepted Q as being real.
Qanon is just one of thousands of kooky conspiracy theories and online social fads. As such, it doesn't rate a single moment of the President's attention.
Your second sentence is proof of what I posted about you lot; this HOAX makes you feel "important", superior, and better than everyone else. The catch is that it actually makes you nothing but fools.
The simple fact is that many of us, here, though obviously not you, know and understand politics, the Constitution, government, pols, factual history, and have kept up with current events since we were kids in the lower grades of grammar school. Some of us even actually have known/know pols, backroom guys, etc., and have worked on many a campaign.
Unlike you and your ilk, we've never talked down to others here ( except when idiots post tripe/bilge/garbage ), seen ourselves as the superior beings, nor pretended to know things we didn't really know. And we also have common sense, which sadly is not so "common" any more.
You're all SO invested in this QCRAP, that even when it all is disproven, you'll still be "believers" and attempt to tell the rest of us how you & Q knew thus and so long ago, which will be yet another lie.
I did read Q, but the spirit didn't move me. The revealed word of the Prophet just never stirred my soul.
I guess I'm just doomed to be an unbelieving heathen.
LOL not important enough... Qmap.pub has 60-70K people online at any given time, that is one of 4 sites I know of to find Q’s posts. Great Awakening had 2 million unique hits last month and 40K comments daily and it was only 1 of 17 subreddits closed down that day. Our FR Qanon threads get 1000 comments a day. There is a LONG list of Qanon groups on Facebook if you search for them and the first one I pulled up is currently at 52K members and that is just scratching the surface of what I myself know of. There are numerous video bloggers, decoding Q with their own followers.
Try a search on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Qanon
None of that would be reason to let people know they are following something make believe, wasting their money... if Trump knew it to be untrue? Instead Trump covertly acknowledges Q a minimum of a couple hundred times in the past 6 or 8 months... Then he makes people wearing Q attire VIPs at his rallies. Do you still understand logic and reasoning??
Since his Dec. 21 E/O that Q highlighted There have been over 10,000 human trafficking arrests... More than all 8 years of Obama’s time combined. There have been over 50K sealed indictments in the past 11 months time, when the average is about 1100/year nationally...
If you don’t want to believe all the evidence put up in front of you, that is fine, you can wait and find out with everybody else when NOBODY can deny it any longer. That day is coming... NO DOUBT!
My only question would be why are you so vested in working against the cause for month after month??
A. Understanding Trump. First of all we know that the MSM characterization of Trump is patently false. He is very strategic with long term planning. He is also very aware of the news as he is a master showman who wants to control the message. The possibility that Trump is unaware of Q is nil.
B. So if Trump is aware of Q why does he not debunk it if he is not associated with Q? I think there are 2 main reasons.
(i) The first reason was discussed in a tweet from Imperator Rex (See the thread on the pinned tweet from July 8 at the top of his tweets. This is a great read - if you haven't read it you should it is well worth it - q is primarily discussed on item numbers 10 -19.) The key concept is that the research that is being performed by the anons in relation to the Q comments effectively has a research staff of 1000’s at no cost. Imperator Rex says this is genius.
(ii) The other reason is that the comments are all pro Trump and anti deep state. This point of view has not waivered. Almost all of us are aware of the sedition against the President and the crimes perpetrated by the cast of characters - Clinton, Comey, Strock, Brennan, McCabe, etc. Q has helped to red pill this awareness to many. This awareness is critical to bringing down the deep state. If Q is phony it is not from the left who would want to do everything to prevent this awareness.
Both items (i) and (ii) greatly benefit Trump so there is no incentive for him to debunk Q. It is something that can easily be done without disparaging Q followers all of whom are patriots (regardless of whether Q was real). He could set up someone asking him the Q question. I think that these benefits far outweigh the negatives. If Q were harmful to Trump, it is obvious to me (as I have carefully followed Trump from the inception of his June 2015 candidacy) that Trump would debunk it. This concludes my initial assertion.
Before I address the 6 points, I will elaborate on understanding Trump. I believe that Trump has been well aware of what is occurring from the get go. Recall that Admiral Rogers went to see Trump shortly after he got elected and the next day he moved his operation from Trump Tower to Bedminster NJ. Also Trump has been preparing for many years (20-30) and is well connected and aware of the swamp. He is also no stranger to battling with people. It is obvious that he has a strategy in mind. The proof of this is holding back the release of documents requested by Congress. If they are damning to the deep state as is suggested, and in light of the Mueller witch hunt then why not release them right away. Is it reasonable to believe that Trump is going to allow himself to be a punching bag and not fight back? Of course not. The answer is that there must be a strategy in place. A logical speculation is timing - remember Trump is a master showman. Many of us (including me) are impatient and what to see the criminals punished yesterday. Trump however has a long term strategy. By the way his tweets (which are important and strategic) have mentioned declassification. It is clear it is in motion.
Now I will address the 6 points.
1. The point about messaging. Trump has demonstrated that he wants to be the message maker. That is his thing. There is nothing in Q's threads that contradicts Trumps message. There might be some stuff that Trump does not address but I do not see a conflict of Trump vs. Q. With respect about Kabucki theater, the only thing that I see is the Trust Sessions (and some others). Bloggers Stealth Jeff, Imperator Rex and Thomas Wictor (they all retweet each other) have made a good case that the Trump feud with Sessions is a misdirection. The salient points to this are this has allowed Sessions to do his work unimpeded by the MSM (Jonathan Turley wrote a great article earlier this year that Huber with a staff of almost 500 is more effective than a special council) and also it has the Rats and the MSM supporting Sessions. This makes it more palatable for acceptance when Sessions gets indictments. It is genius if so. Also looking at Trump, the behaviors of a feud do not add up. Why would Trump not say things in private to Sessions rather than go through the tweets. I am not fully there on these arguments. My hesitancy is that when the 1st feud occurred in public in 2017 with Trump's tweets Sessions was on Tucker Carlson's show and showed great pains from Trumps comments. It was obvious to me that he was not in on any plan at that time. Subsequently, I think (at least hope) that Trump has spoken to Sessions and told him of his plan. Regardless of what you believe about Sessions and Trump, I do not believe that there is any messaging concern for Trump.
2. With respect to the calming effect on people, the key is whether people get indicted. To me that is the essence of Q. If this doesn't happen (a takedown of the deep state is the real goal), then Q was worthless, even if real. This takes time. It is clear that we could not have started out with indictments in the first few months of Trump's administration. That would have been politically disastrous. 3. This is future speculation. Not relevant from existing threads. 4. The red piling of the deep state is critical. I would agree that there has been wild speculation that has not helped. However, the key is the awareness of the deep state. That is what makes the indictments more acceptable. 5. I accept the premise that the feuding with each other is not helpful. To me, the key is dismantling the deep state and getting indictments. That reality makes the feud moot as that is desired by both sides of the Q debate. If there is no action taken then the discord could be harmful to Trump as great frustration would be felt by his supporters. This would be true without any Q threads. 6. It is true that Q's popularity is based on hope. Also the Q gatherings have developed somewhat into cult behaviors. Some of the Q proofs border on the absurdity. There is one person I follow daily who interprets the Q posts as I find it very interesting and intelligent. Yet there have been some comments that have been cult like. I will name 2. One was a Nov 2017 Trump tweet (retweeted within the last month) where he mentioned 2Qs of growth and Q had 2 posts that day. Another was referencing Trumps Sept 11 tweet where he said that it was the 17th anniversary of 9/11 and she noted 17 - meaning attributing that to Q. Both of these are absurd from a well informed intelligent person. Clear cult like behavior. All of this Q following has a common pro Trump thread to it. That is what bonds everyone. I see no harm at all to Trump. In summary, I conclude that Q is not at all harmful to President Trump. In fact, Q has been helpful.
You and your cult nonsense. When the truth comes out then you will find yourself to be the cult. Most people who believe in Q have a whole lot more than feelings to support it. They have proof. Something you have none of. Reading your words is excruciating because you have no proof to back up what you say. You think that you are so wise about what is in Q posts, and you don’t even have a clue what they are comprised of. You have no right to say if they are real or not, because you have done virtually zero work to prove it one way or another. And you never will.
Losing him has gutted me.
:’(
“I did read Q, but the spirit didn’t move me. “
LMFAO...I think I busted an O-ring.
LOLOL
Wait, what.
Could they DO that?
o.O
You want to talk about spelling. What is this:
“Your second sentence is proof of what I posted about you lot; this HOAX...”
And this:
“You lot know less about politics, government,...”
From two of your comments. Too screwed up to even read really.
Ain’t(sic) you the pot calling the kettle black.
flr
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