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Gee, once again moderation in all things proves to be the healthiest option. What a surprise.
1 posted on 08/18/2018 11:03:44 AM PDT by fireman15
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Brought to you by the grain lobby


2 posted on 08/18/2018 11:06:37 AM PDT by a fool in paradise
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Starvation will limit life even faster.


3 posted on 08/18/2018 11:08:05 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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So bacon is good or bad?

GOOOD!!!!!!!


4 posted on 08/18/2018 11:09:41 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Makes sense. What was the average life expectancy 10,000 years ago, when everyone ate a Paleo diet?


5 posted on 08/18/2018 11:10:44 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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A meatless diet doesn’t really make you live longer. It just seems like forever when you can’t enjoy it.


7 posted on 08/18/2018 11:15:53 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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Pure propaganda!

I lost 94 lbs of flab from 2015 on a low carb-high fat diet.

34 days ago I began a zero carb way of eating & lost all my depression/anxiety symptoms, lost all lower back pain I had had for 10+ years, lost all joint pain, lost skin tags, lost soured stomach & did I mention I lost the depression/anxiety symptoms?

Carbs = poison
sugar = poison
meat = health & healing
fat = energy


8 posted on 08/18/2018 11:17:55 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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Just click your heels and a new study appears with the opposite findings.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2018/02/low-fat-or-low-carb-its-a-draw-study-finds.html

https://newatlas.com/low-carb-ketogenic-diet-lifespan-memory-study/51215/


9 posted on 08/18/2018 11:18:47 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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FR is where I come for knowledge, reasoning, and common sense. A college classmate of mine (in her early 70s) has been following Keto Diet principles for a year. She lost enough wait to be average and in control, but she's tired all of the time. I'm thinking of two possible factors: (1) chemicals in meat settle in the fat. She's eating meat fat and drinking half&half with reckless abandon. Could she be getting more chemicals than her body can handle? (2) Her fruit intake is 10 blueberries a day. She won't eat any sweet vegetables. Her major veggie is green lettuce. Is she getting enough vitamins?

The diet that has worked for me is whole foods....processed as little as possible, no added ingredients. Two 4oz (or so) meat servings a day. Whole grain bread and cereals. Next to no milk fat. No mystery sauces. Plenty of fruits and veggies. And I'm not tired. The other item on my "diet"....two brisk walks ever day and an AM upper body exercise routine.

I know there's no diet that works for everyone. But a diet that leaves out vitamins and minerals? It doesn't pass the common sense test.

Freepers, please enlighten me where I err.

10 posted on 08/18/2018 11:20:20 AM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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Note that the article is talking about healthy carbohydrates rather than sugar and white bread and such. Just saying “carbs” is pretty misleading.

Most people following low carb diets are doing so as weight loss strategy and are coming off of eating unhealthy carbs (sugars, refined grains, processed foods...).


12 posted on 08/18/2018 11:22:08 AM PDT by Stingray51
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Tell that to a cat.


18 posted on 08/18/2018 11:32:47 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media deliberately and intentionally chooses to lie, with full awareness and knowledge.)
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True. I do find I feel better when I lay off the carbs. Less cravings.


20 posted on 08/18/2018 11:34:00 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Yeah - I call BS.

They’re sampling an average of averages of self reported dietary information from over several generations.

They don’t factor in health, genetics or even societal factors.


22 posted on 08/18/2018 11:36:50 AM PDT by Skywise
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I downloaded and printed the 10 page study.

They controlled (means compared equally) on sex, smoking, BMI and many other variables.

Given that, the low carbohydrate diet was still 37% carbohydrate, or 160 grams of carbs per day. Those of us who know Keto know that this is no low carb. The high carb dieters were 300 grams per day.

However, after 25 years the low carb dieters lived 4 years less than the medium carb dieters.

But wait: if the low carb dieter substituted bacon and dairy for their carbs, they lived even shorter lives. The low carb dieter who substituted avocado, olive oil and nuts lived as long as the medium carb dieters.

Roughly speaking.


23 posted on 08/18/2018 11:37:23 AM PDT by cicero2k
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All methods of eating that focus on macro nutrients (protein, carb, fat) will encourage deficit in important nutrients to the body - but focusing on micro nutrients and eating more whole/original foods the body was designed to recognize so it can properly utilize the nutrients it needs seems to make most sense. When focusing on eating for micro nutrients in foods the body was designed to eat you usually get plenty of healthful protein fat and carbs.

much of todays grocery store and resturaunt foods are like trying to put hummus in your gas tank and wondering why your car doesn’t run - plenty of oil just a wrong kind and too many extras the car can’t recognize or use.


24 posted on 08/18/2018 11:39:52 AM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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So the govt pyramid is right?

I dont know about paleo but keto is mod protein. My plate used to be covered by a steak. But it is mostly veg and meat now. It is high fat but most of the fat is from non meat sources. Coconut oil, nuts, olives, avocados. Cut the sugar, bread, starches.

3 months i lost 10 lbs and my energy doubled


27 posted on 08/18/2018 11:41:27 AM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives. Do nothing, they win and we lose.)
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I get all the carbs I need through beer. Protein through meat.


30 posted on 08/18/2018 11:43:27 AM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free wwg1wga! Woe is media...)
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I knew it was gonna get me some day! I am almost 72, ate lead based paint as a child, breathed asbestos cement board, worked with white lead paint and lubricant, worked in a power plant with lots of nasty stuff, still here!

Oh, I still have all my teeth. Must have been that polluted well water from the High Plains that did it with all that natural fluoride. Same for brother and sister.


36 posted on 08/18/2018 11:46:18 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (III)
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Protein and fat from healthy animals, no seed oils, and (almost) no processed grain food, you should be good to go for 100 years. Our gut bugs do want us to eat starchy carbs, but they should be natural, like rice, a few grains alone, not baked into crap, and best starches from vegetable roots like tubers. 1 serving or less of fruit a day. Rare dessert. If it doesn’t cause digestive problems, even a little natural, minimally processed bread would be ok.

It’s more a cumulative thing. If you eat a healthy, clean diet all week, of course you can share someone’s birthday cake.


41 posted on 08/18/2018 11:49:30 AM PDT by Yaelle
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And another study...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30114226

High protein intake is associated with low plasma NAD+ levels in a healthy human cohort.

High protein diets may accelerate aging more than we thought


43 posted on 08/18/2018 11:50:03 AM PDT by erlayman (yw)
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'might be'?

Come back when you are scientifically sure.


45 posted on 08/18/2018 11:54:43 AM PDT by TomGuy
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