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South Side Woman Killed By Pit Bull
CBS Chicago ^ | August 4, 2018 | staff

Posted on 08/04/2018 10:08:00 PM PDT by Norski

CHICAGO (CBS) — A 57-year-old woman is killed after being attacked by a pit bull on Chicago’s far South Side.

It happened near 101st and South Calhoun around noon Saturday.

Police said when officers arrived at the scene, the dog charged at them. Both officers fired their guns killing the dog.

The victim was taken to the hospital where she was pronounced dead. The dog bit her throughout her body, including her neck.

Police are still investigating. It’s unclear where the dog’s owner was.

CBS 2 has confirmed the woman’s name is Karen Brown. Her nickname was “Punchie.” pw South Side Woman Killed By Pit Bull

(Credit: Laniece Jones)

According to a family member, there will be a vigil at the scene of the incident Sunday at 6:00 p.m.


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To: Norski

Kill all pit bulls. Might as well keep a cougar in the home.


41 posted on 08/04/2018 11:26:24 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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To: Boomer

I have never heard anybody call pit bulls America’s dog.


42 posted on 08/04/2018 11:27:19 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Boomer

Yeah, well, I’ll bet muslim babies look cute at first too.


43 posted on 08/04/2018 11:29:43 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: j.havenfarm

Don’t bother me with your hangups.


44 posted on 08/04/2018 11:33:53 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: anton
I wouldn’t hesitate to treat them to some antifreeze soaked biscuits.
I can't think of a lower form of life than a dog poisoner, other than maybe a child molester or a rapist. Ignorant, hateful fools like you make me sick.
45 posted on 08/04/2018 11:34:04 PM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, rescue a pit bull.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom; Norski

That’s right.

I was close to being attacked by 2-3 pits when I had my infant daughter out for a walk.

I heard some noise behind me that sounded like a rusty chain saw and looked back and there were some pits FORTUNATELY chained up with chains that held, lunging at them to get to me.

The one day they did get loose, some short time later, the police were called and they would not even get out of the car to deal with them.

Why they didn’t shoot them on sight is beyond me.

It’s a miracle that no one got killed by those dogs.

You are right.

They do not belong anywhere around humans.

A dog bred for killing will kill.

Just like you can’t stop a Lab from loving water and swimming, or a Border Collie from herding things, you cannot train a dog’s nature out of it. It WILL do what it was bred to do.


46 posted on 08/04/2018 11:36:16 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Boomer; Norski

From your very own homepage:

“will argue my point with anyone, but when the thread is done
I will start off fresh with you on another, no ill will carried over”

Sounds like you need to change that if you are going to hold a grudge with that kind of hatred and bile.


47 posted on 08/04/2018 11:40:17 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Boomer


She is obsessed with Pit Bulls. She pee's her pants just seeing a picture of one. Watch!








Let me get this straight: She was killed by a pit bull puppy?


48 posted on 08/04/2018 11:44:03 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 1malumprohibitum

What an absolutely IDIOTIC posting. You have just insinuated that all 5th grade black kids will become 18 year old thugs. As one who has interacted with both young black kids AND 18+ year old murdering thugs, hundreds of them, your statement is one of ignorance. As one who has also owned a so-called pit bull, a Staffordshire Terrier, it was one of the best animals I’ve been associated with....and we hung out with many of the breed without incident. I’ve dealt with ‘bad’ dogs, including ‘pits’, and 98% of the time it was the OWNER who was the source of that animal’s behavior. Not all ‘pit bulls’ are killers just as not all ‘5th grade cherubs’ become murdering thugs. Any death is tragic, whether it be by a street thug, an animal, vehicle accidents, or even ‘well meaning’ government agents.....


49 posted on 08/04/2018 11:44:56 PM PDT by yadent
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To: jospehm20
If you only listen to these dog haters here you might as well spend all your time at Democrats United, CNN, or MSNBC. You will get the same quality information there. I'm a conservative but I have nothing in common with these dog haters. Nothing at all. They have a lot in common with the radicalized leftists though.

https://barkpost.com/pit-bulls-history-of-americas-dog/

How America’s Dog Became Public Enemy #1 – And Why They’re Making Such A Comeback

Kellie Stevens

Love them or hate them — there’s rarely an in-between when it comes to the neverending debate of Pit Bull type breeds and their place in society. But how exactly did Pit Bulls go from being “America’s Dog” at the turn of the 20th century to the most vilified breed of the past few decades? BarkPost did some digging to find the history of where and how it all went wrong.

First, a little backstory and clarification for those who aren’t completely familiar with what “Pit Bulls” actually are. Pit Bulls are not one specific breed, but rather a classification of several breeds (Staffordshire Terriers, American Pit Bull Terriers, American Bullies, American Staffordshire Terriers, and sometimes American Bulldogs and Bull Terriers).

These were originally bred from Old English Bulldogs, who gained popularity in the 1800s on the British Isles in a blood sport known as “bull baiting” (tying a bull to an iron stake that gave him approximately 30 feet to move, and then setting dogs on it in an attempt to immobilize the bull for public entertainment). Bloodsports were outlawed in 1835 in the UK, so “rat-baiting” and dogfighting – which were easier to hide from police – became the new sports of popularity. Bulldogs were crossed with Terriers and then released into a “pit” to chase and kill rats or fight one another, thus beginning the “Pit Bull” type of dog.

In the early stages of America, many immigrants brought their treasured Pit Bull dogs over as part of their families. Though the dogs were bred for fighting sports, the were also incredibly intelligent and friendly. They were used for a variety of jobs that included farming, protecting the family from predators, watching the children, and providing companionship. As the popularity of newspapers and media grew throughout the years, many of these dogs were brought to attention for the number of exemplary deeds they performed.

How, you might ask, could a dog that was bred to fight aggressively also be kind to humans? The answer is actually in their breeding. Pit Bulls that bit handlers were put down and of no use to the owners, so they were bred and trained to be gentle with humans — a trait that most are still well-known for to this day.

You may have heard that Pit Bulls were known as “Nanny Dogs,” watching children while the families were out working in the fields or otherwise not present. Many groups and media outlets have reported on this phenomenon, while others have tried to dispel it as a myth.

Truthfully, there is no credible source to support either of those statements (and you should never leave small children unsupervised with any breed of dog), but one thing is for certain — there are a ton of vintage photographs that show Pit Bulls with children that prove they were popular family pets and trusted around their kids (at least for as long as one of those old–timey photographs took to make!).

What is documented, however, is that there have been a number of notable figures throughout history that were avid Pit Bull owners and supporters. Some of these people include: Theodore Roosevelt, Helen Keller, Thomas Edison, Laura Ingalls Wilder, Fred Astaire, and Humphrey Bogart, to name a few.

Though some believe that Helen Keller’s dog was actually a large Boston Terrier, Bostons were also bred to fight in the ring and considered to be “Pit Bulls” at that time. She was a dog lover and had several breeds in her life, including Mastiffs and Spaniels, but wrote in her autobiography The Story of My Life:

“Whenever it is possible, my dog accompanies me on a walk or ride or sail. I have had many dog friends–huge mastiffs, soft-eyed spaniels, wood-wise setters and honest, homely bull terriers. At present the lord of my affections is one of these bull terriers. He has a long pedigree, a crooked tail and the drollest ‘phiz’ in dogdom. My dog friends seem to understand my limitations, and always keep close beside me when I am alone. I love their affectionate ways and the eloquent wag of their tails.”

Helen Keller had many dogs in her lifetime, including a large Boston/Bull Terrier on the left and what can only be identified as a “Pit Bull” on the right

There have been a number of Pit Bulls that were famous throughout the 20th Century when they were still lauded as American Heroes. One of the earliest of these was Bud, a dog who accompanied his owner Horatio Nelson Jackson on the first cross–country road trip in 1903. Jackson and his traveling companion found Bud about halfway through their trip, and he gained almost as much attention as his new owner. Bud’s goggles are still on display at the National Smithsonian today, and he became the face of The Auto Era in advertising.

During WWI and WWII, Pit Bulls were used in advertising as a national mascot. These dogs were so loved that America made them their sign of fearlessness and protection (and in some early ads, neutrality) in many advertisements. A popular ad included the Pit Bull dressed as an American military symbol with breeds like German Mastiffs and French Bulldogs representing other countries.

In fact, Pit Bulls were some of the first dogs used in American war time. Sergeant Stubby is one of the most well–known war dogs. Originally a stray with a “stubbed” tail found near an Army training camp at Yale, Stubby was taken in and trained to respond to bugle calls, march with troops, and even salute fellow soldiers! His owner smuggled him overseas to fight in WWI, where he served 18 months on the frontlines in 17 battles and 4 different campaigns.

Among the countless stories of heroic acts he performed, Stubby was known for distinguishing between American soldiers and their enemies when getting his comrades help, carrying messages under fire, and detecting incoming attacks of mustard gas and alerting his humans. He even sniffed out a German spy, bit him on the butt, and held on until human help arrived. What a dog!!

Stubby is just one example out of the many other Pit Bull types dating back to the Civil War and beyond who served their country, and Bud is only one of the prominent Pit Bull types in the history of advertising and entertainment during the early 20th century. After all, who could forget one of the most famous Pit Bulls of all time – Petey from the Little Rascals! Pete the Pup was originally played by a show biz dog named Pal (and later his offspring, not-so-ironically named Pete), who was also cast as the live version of cartoon Buster Brown’s dog Tige (yet another popular Pittie in the media).

So with all of these stellar examples of beloved and well–mannered Pit Bulls in history, where did it all start to go wrong?

In the 1960s, ’70s, and particularly ’80s, dogfighting began to see a resurgence. As people saw more of these large dogs in spiked collars on street corners, a natural fear evolved. In conjunction with fighting, it was not uncommon for owners of these dogs to be abusive and encouraged aggressive behaviors to boost their intimidating image. They also took to breeding their own dogs outside of American Kennel Club and American Dog Breeding Association regulations, leading to an overpopulation of Pit Bull types. These things still take place today, despite the outlawing of all dog fighting in 1978, and continue to contribute to the negative image of the Pit Bull.

What many saw as the definitive turning point in the media protrayal and demonization of these breeds was the 1987 Time Magazine cover story entitled “The Pit Bull Friend and Killer.” The cover showed a Pit Bull-type with teeth bared, and the story itself has a lean toward statistics that portrayed the breeds in an unfavorable light. This is also around the same time that breed specific legislation began to take hold. (The first recorded city to pass a breed specific law was Hollywood, FL, in 1980.)

Pit Bulls are hardly the first dog to be feared. As evidenced above, they were long held as an American favorite, while breeds like Newfoundlands, Dobermans, German Shepherds, Rottweilers, and Northern breeds such as Huskies and Malamutes were stigmatized.

In fact, it was actually the Bloodhound that was one of the first to receive this treatment. In the late 19th to early 20th century, Bloodhounds were used to track down slaves and criminals. Many vaudeville productions of Uncle Tom’s Cabin portrayed them as vicious, blood–thirsty beasts, and they showed up frequently in the media as newpapers gained more popularity after the Civil War. The media has long been sensationalizing such stories in an effort to gain readership, but it has been the dogs who have suffered far more than people have.

Unfortunately, there are a few reasons as to why the negative image of Pit Bull types has stuck around for longer than the rest. One is that they are still frequently associated with sordid individuals who overbreed them and use them in fighting rings, as proven in the high–profile case of football player Michael Vick. Another is that they are the most reported on of any breed involved in domestic disputes because of their notoriety, and the current target of most breed specific legislation laws. You don’t read too much about a Labrador biting anyone, but you can be sure that it happens because any dog has the capacity to do so under the wrong circumstances.

Those aforementioned statistics involving breeding and cruelty play a huge role in the public perception and reported incidents. While Pit Bull-type dogs get the most press about “attacks,” they consistently rank among the least aggressive breeds in temperament tests.

The Pacific Standard Magazine had some very interesting statistics and opinions about dog bites to report in their 2014 article “The Tragedy of America’s Dog.” The following excerpt highlights that compared to the number of estimated Pit Bull types vs. bites reported, Pit Bulls were actually on the low end of those to be considered dangerous.

50 posted on 08/04/2018 11:47:41 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: Boomer; Norski
I don't either but I do wish they were discouraged or at least "leashed" down to one thread per month or something instead of this 1,2, or even 3 threads per day of this nonsense.

It's *nonsense* when someone is mauled and/or killed in a pit bull attack?

Upon reviewing Norski's thread posting history, he/she is posting not quite a thread a day.

The problem is, there are not dupes, many threads about the same incident.

Which just supports those who are opposed to pit bulls.

There are far too many incidents of pit bull attacks going on. You actually just built a case against YOUR position that they are fine animals by highlighting the number of thread postings. That is FAR too many for one breed of dog.

They cannot be trusted. And they don't know when to quit. There is no bite once of twice and they are done.

They maul to kill once they get started.

Pits are the muslims of the dog world.

51 posted on 08/04/2018 11:48:10 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: 867V309
Let me get this straight: She was killed by a pit bull puppy?

Yep; the OP peed herself to death by seeing a picture of a cute liddle Pit Bull puppy. /s

52 posted on 08/04/2018 11:49:49 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

Yep. Hung up on dead people who died horrible deaths.


53 posted on 08/04/2018 11:52:14 PM PDT by j.havenfarm ( 1,000 Posts as of 8/11/17! Still not shutting up after all these years!)
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To: yadent; 1malumprohibitum
You have just insinuated that all 5th grade black kids will become 18 year old thugs.

In your dreams.

It's a valid point.

The monsters that maul a woman to death probably were cute puppies. But the pictures were posted to provoke sympathy for the dogs just like people post baby pictures of some thug that just killed someone to provoke sympathy for the killer, and not the victim.

Another person is dead from a pit bull attack and all you can worry about is why people are opposed to them>

The dead and bloodied body is why.

54 posted on 08/04/2018 11:53:18 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Boomer


Yep; the OP peed herself to death by seeing a picture of a cute liddle Pit Bull puppy. /s

Why didn't you post one of the thousands of vicious pit bull pics available?       /s


55 posted on 08/04/2018 11:56:22 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: metmom
Sounds like you need to change that if you are going to hold a grudge with that kind of hatred and bile

For you vile and hateful dog haters; I'm willing to make an exception. Besides; this is not a political issue and really has no business being here. It's one thing to make the occasional one-of off topic posts. It's another thing entirely to make them multiple times on a daily basis.

You people may have a point but you're dead wrong in how you're trying to make it. You're just pissing people off; not gaining many to your Jihad. You are no different than the radicalized muslims and leftists we revile here constantly. This isn't the place for this nonsense anyway. Take it to FB or Myspace or something. Twitter or Twitchy yourselves if you must.

56 posted on 08/04/2018 11:56:44 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: metmom

Which sect of Islam are you referring to that would be akin to a killer ‘pit bull’? I’m interested in that I have family that are Muslim.


57 posted on 08/04/2018 11:57:02 PM PDT by yadent
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To: metmom
Pits are the muslims of the dog world.

You hateful dog haters are the muslims of FR.

58 posted on 08/04/2018 11:57:48 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: taxesareforever

Please see here for further information. It is an excerpt of the book by Semyonova:

https://www.animals24-7.org/2015/11/10/the-science-of-how-behavior-is-inherited-in-aggressive-dogs/

The heritability of abnormal aggression in certain breeds of dogs can no longer be denied. The bodies of these dogs have been selected to execute a killing bite more efficiently than other breeds. These dogs share physical conformation to the task of killing, including exaggerated jaw muscles, heavy necks and shoulders, and body mass that makes defense against an attack much more difficult. Among people who want dogs who can kill, these are the breeds of choice because they are physically more fit for it than other breeds.
Dogo Argentino

Dogo Argentino
Behavioral conformation

But breeders also selected for behavioral conformation. To perform well, a fighting dog had to attack without provocation or warning, and to continue attacking regardless of the response of the other animal. Bull and bear-baiting dogs had to be willing to attack in the absence of the species-specific signs that normally provoke aggression, responding to the mere presence of another animals, and not stopping in response to external stimuli. The Dogues du Bordeaux used to guard extended farmlands in France, the Boerbulls used similarly in South Africa, and the fugitive slave-chasing dogs of Latin America, such as the Dogo Argentino and Fila Brasiliero, all were selected to specifically for a propensity to kill.

As they selected for performance, breeders could not know exactly which physical changes they were selecting for. But research now shows that selection for aggressive performance includes consistently selecting for very specific abnormalities in the brain. These abnormalities appear in many breeds of dog as an accident or anomaly, which breeders then attempt to breed out of the dogs. In the case of the aggressive breeds, the opposite occurred. Rather than excluding abnormally aggressive dogs from their breeding stock, breeders focused on creating lineages in which all the dogs would carry the genes causing them to reliably exhibit the desired impulsive aggressive behavior.

“That aggression is not heritable is not tenable”

Now that we know exactly which brain abnormalities the breeders of fighting dogs have been selecting, the assertion that this aggression is not heritable is no longer tenable. It is also not tenable to assert that not all the dogs of these breeds will carry the genes that make them dangerous.

(excerpted)


59 posted on 08/04/2018 11:58:26 PM PDT by Norski
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To: yadent


Which sect of Islam are you referring to that would be akin to a killer ‘pit bull’? I’m interested in that I have family that are Muslim.

maybe the fun-loving-beheading ISIS bunch. Heard of them?


60 posted on 08/05/2018 12:01:26 AM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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