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2018 MacBook Pro Review
HRTApps.com ^ | July 12, 2018 | By Craig A. Hunter

Posted on 07/13/2018 1:59:00 PM PDT by Swordmaker

I’ve been using Mac laptops for a long time, going back to the very first portable Apple ever made, so I was really excited when Apple sent me a new MacBook Pro to test and review. This 15” space gray MacBook Pro looks just like the 2016 model I purchased about 18 months ago, but on the inside it has some big changes. My test unit came equipped with a 2.9 GHz Intel i9 processor with 6-cores (a Core i9-8950HK to be specific, part of Intel’s Coffee Lake family), 32 GB of 2400 MHz DDR4 memory, an AMD Radeon Pro 560X discrete GPU with 4096 MB (low power graphics are handled by an Intel UHD 630 integrated GPU with 1536 MB), and a 4TB SSD. The 2.9 GHz CPU can turbo boost to 3.6 GHz, and if that’s not enough for you, it can also “thermal velocity boost” to as high as 4.8 GHz, load and temperature permitting.




The display on the new MacBook Pro is a 15.4” Retina display with 2880x1800 resolution, just like my old model, but the new MacBook Pro has a True Tone adaptive display (controlled by a new Apple T2 chip, which also handles chores like encrypted storage and booting, Hey Siri, and all the duties of the old T1 chip). The difference is quite stunning and may be reason enough to upgrade to this new model. Indoors, in rooms with warm lighting, the old screen makes whites look blue and harsh but the new screen is warm and easy on the eyes. Outdoors, it goes in the opposite direction and gives whites a natural daylight tint. It’s a great feature to have on a laptop that will be used for visually intensive work in a wide range of ambient lighting conditions.

The keyboard on the new MacBook Pro looks familiar, but it’s a third generation butterfly keyboard with some noticeable improvements. Chief among them is noise, or lack of it. Whereas the old keyboard had a bit of clack to it, on both the down stroke and the up stroke, the new keyboard has a muted pop in both directions. In addition, lateral play is greatly reduced. Finger a key on the old keyboard and you can wiggle it. On the new keyboard, the keys are firmly centered. Overall, the new keyboard feels more precise and direct, but behaves much the same. Folks longing for more key travel (real or simulated) won’t find it, but if you liked the old keyboard you’ll like this new one even more.

When I reviewed the 2016 MacBook Pro, one thing I lamented was the 16 GB memory limitation, and thankfully that has been fixed -- the 2018 model now offers up to 32 GB. For my work in engineering and software development, this is a good amount of memory for a laptop (though I still like 64-128 GB on a desktop). While the 2018 MacBook Pro changed from low power LPDDR3 memory to more power-hungry DDR4 memory, increases in power consumption were offset with a slightly larger battery (now up to 83.6 watt-hour). Weight remains unchanged at right around 4 pounds.

At this point I’d like to turn to some benchmarks, since performance is a key factor in my work. As I have done in past reviews, I’ll be using computational fluid dynamics (CFD) simulations for basic benchmarks, as well as using results from a LINPACK benchmark. I’ll follow that up with some GPU benchmarking, and touch on the use of an eGPU.

First up, I’d like to look at single core performance by generating the surface mesh of an aircraft composed of 237,660 triangles. I’ll be comparing the 2018 MacBook Pro to 10-core and 18-core iMac Pros, as well as my old 2016 MacBook Pro. Here, we see the 2018 MacBook Pro coming in 29% faster than the 2016 model and just barely edging out both iMac Pros – truly impressive performance for a laptop. And with 32GB, the MacBook Pro will be capable of generating some fairly large meshes, addressing the chief limitation of my 2016 model for CFD use.

Next we’ll look at a numerical simulation, where we compute flow on the mesh. Often, these simulations are run on supercomputer clusters, using anywhere from 500 to 2000 cores or more, sometimes over a period of days or weeks. Smaller cases can be run on multi-core laptop and desktop computers, especially among small business users and folks in academia. The flow simulation is very amenable to parallel processing and makes for a good multi-core benchmark.

Here, we compute flow around a NACA 0012 airfoil. Results are plotted to show gigaflops (GFLOPS) as a function of the number of cores used. The 18-core iMac Pro is king here, running up past 60 GFLOPS on 18 cores, but the new MacBook Pro starts out slightly faster on 1 core and hangs right with both iMac Pros up to 3 cores. At 4 cores, the 2018 MacBook Pro is 24% faster than the 2016 model, and the new MacBook Pro goes on to be 30% faster overall when using all 6 of its cores (compared to the old model's 4).

I also looked at scaling performance, which is interesting and tells a lot about a computer’s architecture. The chart below shows the multi-core speedup (= single-core time divided by multi-core time) for each computer tested. For reference, an ideal trend is shown with a dashed line. Here we can see a very typical result, where classes of computers tend to separate out into packs – the two workstation-class iMac Pros running together, and the two laptop-class MacBook Pros running together.

For a final CPU benchmark I want to look at LINPACK, which solves a dense system of linear equations by LU decomposition with partial pivoting. This benchmark uses Intel's Math Kernel Library (MKL) code and solves a system of 15,000 equations. Here, the 2018 MacBook Pro runs with the two iMac Pro models up to about 5 cores before falling off, which is pretty impressive. Topping out with 260 GFLOPS at 6 cores, the new MacBook Pro is a whopping 60% faster than the old 2016 model was on 4 cores.

In terms of graphics performance, the MacBook Pro is no slouch. The AMD Radeon Pro 560X GPU handled everything I threw at it with smooth and clean rendering, including CAD work and 3D CFD visualization. But I was fortunate to also get a new Blackmagic eGPU for testing, which contains an AMD Radeon Pro 580 (with double the video memory -- 8192 MB -- of the 560X). The eGPU is quiet and easy to use – plug it in, attach it to the MacBook Pro with an included Thunderbolt 3 cable, and connect an external display via a second Thunderbolt 3 port or HDMI port. I tested the eGPU with Sony, Sharp, and Samsung displays of various resolutions, and it worked great in all cases. The eGPU cannot be used to accelerate the MacBook Pro's internal display, but it can be used as an OpenCL compute node with or without an external display attached.




As expected, the eGPU gives a pretty solid jump in performance. Here are some LuxMark OpenCL benchmarks comparing the eGPU to the two GPUs available in the MacBook Pro, as well as the iMac Pro (with its AMD Radeon Pro Vega 64) thrown in for perspective. In these two benchmarks, the eGPU gives 2.4X-2.7X increases in performance over the discrete 560X GPU in the MacBook Pro and bumps performance up to about 70% of the iMac Pro.


Now, there is a catch to using an eGPU – ultimately it’s limited by the bandwidth of the Thunderbolt 3 port, which is 40 Gbps. That’s not an issue for graphics tasks or compute tasks that can be completely offloaded to the eGPU, but for tasks that communicate between the CPU and eGPU, or between the various onboard GPUs and the eGPU, Thunderbolt 3 can be a bottleneck. When I benchmarked some OpenGL CAD software that I develop and counted frames/sec with the MacBook Pro in clamshell mode running an external 4K display, the eGPU was no faster than the discrete 560X GPU in one case, and actually slower in another. Upon further examination, I determined that this was due to traffic between the CPU and eGPU, as geometry computations on the CPU were fed into OpenGL for rendering. Moving the computations over to OpenCL on the eGPU would eliminate this bottleneck, and I plan to investigate that in the future. For now, I can say that anyone looking for maximum benefit from an eGPU should make sure their software or game can take proper advantage of it.

In summary, there is a lot to like about the 2018 MacBook Pro. It has made great strides in performance and runs alongside the iMac Pro for the single-core and 2- to 5-core computations I benchmarked in this review. The increase in memory to 32GB makes it a truly viable machine for my CFD workflows. The keyboard is more precise and quieter, and the new True Tone display is a standout feature that my eyes appreciated every time I looked at it. Overall this 2018 model is a very solid evolution, with improvements that emphasize the "Pro" in MacBook Pro.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: applepinglist; macbookpro2018
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1 posted on 07/13/2018 1:59:00 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 5thGenTexan; AbolishCSEU; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; ...
Review and Benchmarks of the new 2018 MacBook Pro.—PING!


Apple 2018 MacBook Pro Review and Benchmarks Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 07/13/2018 2:01:18 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker

bookmark


3 posted on 07/13/2018 2:05:46 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Swordmaker

$3,000-$6,000 YIKES


4 posted on 07/13/2018 2:12:04 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

I figured on 3,000$. But not much higher for the loaded models.


5 posted on 07/13/2018 2:18:37 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Swordmaker

Thanks Swordmaker for the post. Interesting comparing against my 2016 model, maxed at 16GB having a 2.9GHz i7 with 4 cores. Always something faster and better coming out.


6 posted on 07/13/2018 2:25:36 PM PDT by roadcat
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Here's an article from ZDNet where the author is upset that Apple did not tell people months ago that they would be releasing a new, more powerful MacBook Pro so people would not go ahead and buy the older model.

Apple's surprise MacBook Pro update further strains its relationship with pros
Nearly everyone's thrilled Apple has introduced a much higher-end MacBook Pro. But it's the way they did it that's causing pain among its most influential customers
By David Gewirtz for DIY-IT — July 13, 2018

Boy, are some folks pissed. You would think that Apple finally giving some very expensive love to its MacBook Pro line-up would give some relief to power-hungry professionals, but no.

Here's a quick bit of background if you don't obsessively scan the tech blogs: Apple updated its MacBook Pro line yesterday. They did it quietly, without a big event. Read more at the link in the title. . .


7 posted on 07/13/2018 2:29:10 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Drango
$3,000-$6,000 YIKES

The MacBook Pro starts at $1299, not $3000. That's for the 13.3" model. The 15.4" version starts at $2399. . .

8 posted on 07/13/2018 2:32:56 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: dennisw
I figured on 3,000$. But not much higher for the loaded models.

Actually you can more than double that with a fully loaded version. Here is what you can do:

All of that comes to $$6,699.00.
9 posted on 07/13/2018 2:40:27 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker
My test unit came equipped with a 2.9 GHz Intel i9 processor with 6-cores (a Core i9-8950HK to be specific, part of Intel’s Coffee Lake family), 32 GB of 2400 MHz DDR4 memory, an AMD Radeon Pro 560X discrete GPU with 4096 MB (low power graphics are handled by an Intel UHD 630 integrated GPU with 1536 MB), and a 4TB SSD.

And how much does it cost with 4TB SSD?

10 posted on 07/13/2018 2:42:25 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Swordmaker

6699.00$$ for all the bells and whistles not including the 3 year full repair / warranty ????? ........ TAKE MY MONEY !!! < /sarcasm>

Still driving a 13” late 2012 Mac Book Pro w 8GB memory that works perfect..... shy of needing a new battery. It only runs about 8hrs with standard use of surfing, reading, writing ..... add u-toob videos and its 3 hours at best. Plug it in to charger and it provides as needed.

Where can I get a new battery installed , reliably , quality ?


11 posted on 07/13/2018 2:58:44 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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I’m astonished that Apple hasn’t backed away from the idiotic four USB-C port design they came up with in 2016. Without an expensive dongle there’s almost nothing that can be connected to these laptops. It’s 100% guaranteed that at some point you’ll be at an important out of town presentation and be unable to access a USB thumb drive or SD card because of a misplaced dongle.

The 2015 MacBook pros with USB, HDMI and SD card ports are holding their value on eBay, I’ll probably buy another one soon.


12 posted on 07/13/2018 3:06:40 PM PDT by Junk Silver ("It's a little hard to herd people onto trains when they're shooting at you." SirLurkedalot)
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To: Swordmaker

Would run circles around my 9 year old MacBook Air. And I assume it comes without wine and pizza stains?


13 posted on 07/13/2018 3:11:43 PM PDT by donozark (Restraining orders are just another way of saying I love you.)
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To: Squantos

Go to Apple for a new battery. It’s worth it.


14 posted on 07/13/2018 3:14:52 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: Intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: Squantos

Still driving a 13” late 2012 Mac Book Pro w 8GB memory that works perfect..... shy of needing a new battery. It only runs about 8hrs with standard use of surfing, reading, writing ..... add u-toob videos and its 3 hours at best. Plug it in to charger and it provides as needed.

Where can I get a new battery installed , reliably , quality ?

You might even consider changing out the battery yourself. Checkout the excellent instructional guides on iFixit. The MacBook Pro battery replacement is rated as “easy”.

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Unibody+Mid+2012+Battery+Replacement/10365


15 posted on 07/13/2018 3:29:28 PM PDT by Flick Lives (Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation.)
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To: Swordmaker

The imac pro 2018 27” is a solid choice for people doing mechanical engineering design and Electronic layouts — multilayer. A Suitable engineering workstation.


16 posted on 07/13/2018 3:33:06 PM PDT by Fhios (&#9835; Oh Where have you been Jeffy boy Jeffy boy oh where have you been charming Jeffy?)
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To: Junk Silver
I’m astonished that Apple hasn’t backed away from the idiotic four USB-C port design they came up with in 2016. Without an expensive dongle there’s almost nothing that can be connected to these laptops. It’s 100% guaranteed that at some point you’ll be at an important out of town presentation and be unable to access a USB thumb drive or SD card because of a misplaced dongle.

Because they are not just USB-C ports, but Thunderbolt 3 ports as well, with the capability of passing 40Gb/second of all kinds of data as well as power both in and out. That's more powerful than USB-C that just happens to share the same port format.

"One Port to connect them all."

Thunderbolt 3 allows daisy chaining of up to six devices on one port. Therefore the four T-3 ports on that MacBook Pro allows the connection of 24 peripherals including high speed graphic cards, high definition monitors, and very high speed SSD storage.

USB-C is only 10Gb/sec on transfer rate. . but the USB-C port is designed to be "future proof" as it is the new standard for everything and includes the Thunderbolt 3 standard. It is the peripherals that must come into the 21st Century that need to change, not the new computers that must stay wedded to the past cacophony of older "standards" that were not standard except in some peripheral maker's stubborn mind.

USB itself started itself because Apple removed all other non-standard ports for other connections to printers, serial ports, etc. The other PC makers followed suit reluctantly over the next few years after Apple made USB the standard on the first iMac. This is the same thing here.

17 posted on 07/13/2018 4:06:15 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Squantos; Flick Lives
Still driving a 13” late 2012 Mac Book Pro w 8GB memory that works perfect..... shy of needing a new battery. It only runs about 8hrs with standard use of surfing, reading, writing ..... add u-toob videos and its 3 hours at best. Plug it in to charger and it provides as needed.

Where can I get a new battery installed , reliably , quality ?

18 posted on 07/13/2018 4:14:16 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker

Thanks. Seems to me to be the same one in this review.


19 posted on 07/13/2018 5:00:11 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Swordmaker

So when the hell are laptops going to have internet connectivity without a hot spot. Moreover, why the hell don’t they????? Imean, if a small iPad can connect to the internet, then why in Sam Hill are laptops stuck only with WiFi unless you have an idiotic hot spot.

Do designers not understand how detestably aggravating this is? It is almost 2020 for goodness sake!


20 posted on 07/13/2018 6:36:23 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now. Free the Donald.)
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