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Interesting 4-stroke engine idea. Replaces the Fly Wheel with a lightweight electric motor
https://newatlas.com/electromagnetic-flywheel-engine/55254/ ^

Posted on 07/01/2018 4:46:56 PM PDT by Jonty30

Lockup your flywheel, folks, an American inventor is coming after them. Randy Moore of RK Transportation is working on an idea with a lightweight rotor with embedded magnets, to apply little pulses of electromagnetic torque just when they are needed in search of easier acceleration.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: flywheel; randymoore; rktransportation
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Does this idea work? Advantages? Disadvantages?
1 posted on 07/01/2018 4:46:56 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

Perpetual motion?


2 posted on 07/01/2018 4:47:38 PM PDT by steve8714 ("My name is Rod Blagojevich and I need cash now!" (all) "Call JB Pritzker, 87DirtyCashNOW!")
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To: Jonty30

Wish I would have thought of it.


3 posted on 07/01/2018 4:48:38 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: steve8714

Not quite. The magnets would probably work in sync to attract and then turn off to let them slide by each other. We know magnets work, but the question is whether or not they will work better than a fly wheel.


4 posted on 07/01/2018 4:49:48 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cults.)
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To: Jonty30

BFL. Like to see where this goes.


5 posted on 07/01/2018 4:50:03 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Wisdom and education are different things. Don't confuse them.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Me too. All my greatest ideas are already at least 20 years old before I thought of them. :D


6 posted on 07/01/2018 4:50:38 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cults.)
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To: Jonty30

Buy a Prius. Great cars.


7 posted on 07/01/2018 4:51:45 PM PDT by raiderboy (Trump has assured us that he will shut down the government to get the WALL in Sept.)
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To: Jonty30

A flywheel is just dead weight. Any power generated for the same weight will be a plus. Will it be enough of a plus to offset the expense?


8 posted on 07/01/2018 4:52:15 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: Jonty30

I could see where magnets might boost acceleration.
After all a fly wheel only stores energy.


9 posted on 07/01/2018 4:54:19 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Jonty30

Interesting, but energy isn’t free. Where will the energy come from to power the motor? And the flywheel is a relatively low mass to accelerate compared to the vehicle.


10 posted on 07/01/2018 4:54:38 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The ONLY purpose for gun control is so that one group can force its will on a less powerful group.)
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To: Jonty30

Flywheel provides energy when needed by the engine, an electric motor is just another load.


11 posted on 07/01/2018 4:57:09 PM PDT by CodeToad
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This is just another of the many new strategies that combustion engines have going for them in the race for efficiency. Computer controlled valves the lighten the valves and eliminate the camshaft(Koenigsegg), mechanical variable timing and other innovations are making engines with unheard of power to weight ratios.


12 posted on 07/01/2018 5:06:09 PM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: ResponseAbility

*that* lighten the valves


13 posted on 07/01/2018 5:07:24 PM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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Does this idea work? Advantages? Disadvantages?
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Yeah it works , this is how Toyota has been doing it for the last 15 years , sandwiched between the gas engine and tranny ... the electric motor functionally replaces the starter , as it has 25-60 hp it cranks the gas engine instantly ,, you never notice the gas engine starting and stopping.


14 posted on 07/01/2018 5:09:33 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

A DC motor works as a generator if the shaft it rotated by an external force. I would think (!) that one attached directly to the crankshaft and connected to a capacitor should charge the capacitor on the power stroke and contribute turning force as the capacitor discharges.
I still think it would require some kind of flywheel, though perhaps a much lighter one.


15 posted on 07/01/2018 5:10:27 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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I don’t see how this is any different than virtually every motorcycle engine now made.

Motorcycle “Flywheels” are a hollow shell that simply acts as a mount for electrical coils so when the engine rotates, electrical power is generated. That is stored in the battery while also powering the road lights, electronic dash, etc.

The “Flywheel” also provides a convenient rotor for the electronic ignition triggers.

All while still providing the rotational mass required by the combustion engine for the given application.


16 posted on 07/01/2018 5:10:46 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: Jonty30

The flywheel robs power on acceleration, but it gives back fuel economy when you “coast” down a light grade or toward a stop sign. Without a flywheel, your engine would slow muc more dramatically every time you take your foot off the petal. Is this electric motor going to mimic the benefit of having a flywheel, or will it mimic a flywheels benefit but just not rob acceleration.

I am dubious.


17 posted on 07/01/2018 5:10:57 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now. Free the Donald.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Make it in China what expense?


18 posted on 07/01/2018 5:11:37 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
"I am dubious"


So am I. I think this whole 'Horseless Carriage' thing is just a fad!

19 posted on 07/01/2018 5:14:42 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Dalberg-Acton

But in charging the capacitor you use energy. There is no free energy.


20 posted on 07/01/2018 5:14:47 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The ONLY purpose for gun control is so that one group can force its will on a less powerful group.)
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