Harper’s Weekly – June 19, 1858

Harper's Weekly archives ^ | June 19, 1858

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[Homer_J_Simpson]

Free Republic University, Department of History presents U.S. History, 1855-1860: Seminar and Discussion Forum
Bleeding Kansas, Dred Scott, Lincoln-Douglas, Harper’s Ferry, the election of 1860, secession – all the events leading up to the Civil War, as seen through news reports of the time and later historical accounts

First session: November 21, 2015. Last date to add: Sometime in the future.
Reading: Self-assigned. Recommendations made and welcomed. To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by reply or freepmail.

Link to previous thread

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Lieutenant-General Winfield Scott – 2-4*
Contents – 3
Editorials – 4-5
The Lounger – 5-7
The Fashionable Promenades of London and Paris – 8-10
The Battle of Bunker Hill – 11-13 (New England Flag referenced on p 17)
Earthquake Experiences – 14-16
Insane – 16
Monument to Col. Wm. Washington, at Charleston, S.C. – 16-17
The Outrage on the “Tropic Bird” – 17-18
Who Was the Author of the Ordinance of 1787? – 19
Miscellany – 19-20

* Winfield Scott Wikipedia page

[morphing libertarian]

I can’t read it. Who authored the ordinance?

[M Kehoe]

LTG Scott was a mean ol’ cuss.

I’ll wager he never smiled. Even after sex.

Okay, detention for me...

5.56mm

[Homer_J_Simpson]

The writer of the letter to the editor thinks it was Thomas Jefferson. The Harper’s editors stick to their claim, supported by a letter to Rufus King, that the author was Nathan Dane.

[morphing libertarian]

thanx

[BroJoeK]

Homer: "The writer of the letter to the editor thinks it was Thomas Jefferson."

Regardless, Jefferson supported the Ordnance and helped get it passed, right?
It will be a matter of considerable interest to the 1860 Republican platform committee.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Continued from June 16 (reply #7). The letter from John Locke Scripps to Lincoln cited in paragraph 3 below was written on this day.

Allen C. Guelzo, Lincoln and Douglas: The Debates that Defined America

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Continued from November 10, 1856 (reply #44)

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Nathan Bedford Forrest: A Biography, by Jack Hurst

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Edmund Turner to William Still, June 22, 1858

HAMILTON, June 22d, 1858, C. W.

TO MR. WM. STILL, DEAR SIR:— A favorable opportunity affords the pleasure of acknowledging the receipt of letters and papers; certainly in this region they were highly appreciated, and I hope the time may come that your kindness will be reciprocated we are al well at present, but times continue dull. I also deeply regret the excitement recently on the account of those slaves, you will favor me by keeping me posted upon the subject. Those words written to slaveholder is the thought of one who had sufferd, and now I thought it a duty incumbent upon me to cry aloud and spare not, &c., by sending these few lines where the slaveholder may hear. You will still further oblige your humble servant also, to correct any inaccuracy. My respects to you and your family and all inquiring friends.

Your friend and well wisher,
EDMUND TURNER.

SOURCE: William Still, The Underground Railroad: A Record of Facts, Authentic Narratives, Letters &c., p. 120

civilwarnotebook.blogspot.com

[rdl6989]

1400 dollars in 1860 would be $40,535.13 in 2018.

https://www.officialdata.org/1860-dollars-in-2018?amount=1400

[Tax-chick]

Interesting business data.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Continued from June 16 (reply #8).

Abraham Lincoln: Speeches and Writings 1832-1858, edited by Don E. Fehrenbacher

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Continued (skipping 6 pages) from June 22 (reply #8) See Lincoln’s warning to Trumbull in the letter above on this date.

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Allen C. Guelzo, Lincoln and Douglas: The Debates that Defined America

[colorado tanker]

Abe has decided to play the long game instead of pandering to those “moderate” Whig squishes.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

I agree. He knows he is a longshot to win over the state legislature anyway, and he knows if he is to emerge as an important politician it will be behind his core beliefs about slavery and the future course of the nation. With “House Divided” he laid his cards on the table. He is working at damage control within the political class now, and in two months he will begin to explain his views to the voting public. He may not win Douglas’s Senate seat but maybe other opportunities will come along later.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Continued from June 10 (reply #17) .

The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Continued from June 23 (reply #13).

Abraham Lincoln: Speeches and Writings 1832-1858, edited by Don E. Fehrenbacher

Joseph Medill Wikipedia page

[colorado tanker]

So, the times advocated war against Mexico? Oh, dear, that is beyond un-PC, that’s Racist!

[Homer_J_Simpson]

The Times wasn’t around until 1851. I think this letter refers to the fact that some eastern Republicans were supporting Douglas for reelection over Lincoln, and the Times was running with the story that Lincoln didn’t vote to supply the army in the field during the War. Most northern conservatives, including Lincoln, opposed the Mexican war, but once it started they knew the troops had to be taken care of. And, as Lincoln says in the letter to Medill, he didn’t get to Congress until the war was essentially over.