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Tainted Triple Crown
June 10, 2018 | ML/NJ

Posted on 06/10/2018 5:41:53 PM PDT by ml/nj

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To: ml/nj

One of the NBC commentators asked BAffert Saturday about Restoring Hope’s odd run and he said that Restoring Hope’s only chance was to try to get out front quickly. (However, Justify was leading from beginning to end.)

The owners of the other horses think that’s the reason they lost. Maybe Justify is just a superior horse.


61 posted on 06/11/2018 6:31:13 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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Maybe Justify is just a superior horse.

Justify IS a superior horse; but some things are not allowed. Dr. Fager was one of the greatest thoroughbreds of all time. He was disqualified in the Jersey Derby for cutting in front of other horses, though he won the race easily.

ML/NJ

62 posted on 06/11/2018 6:56:38 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

For the first time in my marriage, my wife did not watch due to Soros involved.


63 posted on 06/11/2018 6:59:17 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: ml/nj

Bumpy ride bump.


64 posted on 06/11/2018 8:50:24 AM PDT by BTerclinger (MAGA)
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To: ml/nj

That’s funny, since People usually cry about Fager being the victim of the most common strategy in racing...the rabbit, with Damascus.

Again, I see nothing wrong with what happened Sat.


65 posted on 06/11/2018 9:56:18 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: ml/nj

According to a recently discovered item, Baffert hired Russian brood mares to dance and pee on the other horse’s straw.

Thus it is called the Stable Stall Dossier.


66 posted on 06/11/2018 10:03:02 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: carton253

Hey, he wasn’t bad, but he did not win every single race.

The Wood, contrary to schoolgirl Bill Nack’s stories about an abscess that did not appear until Tuesday, had no real reason for the loss. Even the exercise rider beforehand thought he was a bit off, and Ray Wolfe’s fact-filled Sec book covers it with nary a mention of a sore mouth.

The Whitney...a fever? Maybe, but it didn’t show till some time later. How many are affected by an infection much until the actual onset of symptoms?

The Woodward is another. “Wasn’t ready”. Oh please. You know your prime horse Riva doesn’t like rain and it’s probably going to rain, so Sec must be on deck. And he didn’t prepare him? Not buying that. Another 119 lbs of equal or less weight but couldn’t pull it off.

IOW, except for the possible fever after the fact, there is no solid evidence Sec had good excuses for these races.

The good news is he still was great, did very well even so, and did set now 6 records that season, half the races.

But greatest of all, no question? Some have better evidence. For me, I think I believe he may be the 2nd greatest, at least American.


67 posted on 06/11/2018 10:13:58 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: .44 Special

Actually be careful when throwing stones that you don’t have a glass house.

His name is RESTORING Hope. ;-)


68 posted on 06/11/2018 10:17:01 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Nah, he was part of the conspiracy. They paid them hush money, right?

I want to know just what this really helps. Sure, Baffert could have another TC in his belt, but what other motivation is there? It’s only 3 years since the break-thru TC, which really had more impact than this. AP was the one that everyone really would’ve wanted. Now is not as big a deal.


69 posted on 06/11/2018 10:36:48 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: itsahoot

He is not.

His assoc. fund company is part of the breeding (stud) rights for him, AFTER his racing.


70 posted on 06/11/2018 10:41:22 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I know many who would agree. Man O War didn’t win every single race either. Since the 2 horses did not complete against each other, we won’t ever know who would win. I just don’t have to run down Man O War in threads to elevate Secretariat. Both horses were something to behold in their time.


71 posted on 06/11/2018 10:54:28 AM PDT by carton253 (Jesus is everything.)
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I’ve been embittered by many battles on racing fora, sorry. The acrimony is amazing.

Man O’War lost one race...a 6f sprint as a 2yo he lost by a neck in record time after he and the other 2 most outside horses were left standing at the post while the winner and 3 others got away at the break. He had a concrete excuse...actually left behind by maybe 4lengths.

The other thing about MOW is all his races except the debut were stakes. All 20 of 21. That doesn’t happen. Neither does his setting some record as a 3yo 3 out of every 4 starts, including 3 world (absolute, not by dirt only like Sec’s) records. 8 total records. And probably deserved 1 more because the Whisk Broom II record is very questionable for 1-1/4.

Ok, off my soapbox for now. I’m very jealous for my horse, esp. after the internet battles!


72 posted on 06/11/2018 11:11:24 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Dude, you forgot to tell me about this.


73 posted on 06/11/2018 10:36:48 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy

We should go to Paducah and meet dj


74 posted on 06/12/2018 8:21:01 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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