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Tainted Triple Crown
June 10, 2018 | ML/NJ

Posted on 06/10/2018 5:41:53 PM PDT by ml/nj

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To: Bommer

If the jockey touched justify with the crop I never saw it. I saw him wave it but not touch the horse. He might have done different if he’d realized how fast Gronkowiski was closing. Wished I’d had fifty on that horse to place.


41 posted on 06/10/2018 7:57:04 PM PDT by Equine1952 (Carry, practice, pray it don't happen. You ain't carrying you lose automtilly)
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To: ml/nj
They mentioned this "teamwork" during the race, and noted that it was completely legal.

Justify led the Belmont Stakes pole-to-pole, with all the other horses drafting at various points in order to save energy.

So "tainted", my -ss. Justify was the best horse by far and fully earned the victory. Leading pole-to-pole is no small feat, and the little move made early in the race by Restoring Hope was both legal, and ultimately had nothing to do with the outcome.

This article is nothing but sour grapes by someone who probably lost a bet. As I said, the commentators mentioned this incident and stressed that this mild teamwork was perfectly within the rules—just like it is in NASCAR.

Trying to taint Justify's victory, a horse who expended maximum energy—more than any other horse—by leading pole-to-pole is patently asinine...

42 posted on 06/10/2018 8:09:09 PM PDT by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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To: Pirate Ragnar

Yes he is.

The horse that placed 2nd (Gronkowski) was unimpeded on the rail for his entire race and he still could not catch the winner. This is sour grapes.


43 posted on 06/10/2018 8:11:15 PM PDT by waud
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To: ml/nj
if the jockey on Noble Indy had claimed foul

Did he?

Are they supposed to change the rules just for the Belmont stakes?

The whole notion is ridiculous. The Belmont Stakes isn't some chaotic 20-horse free-for-all like the Kentucky Derby.

The cream comes to the top in the Belmont. Leading pole-to-pole in a 1-1/2 mile race is extremely difficult, and most impressive when it happens. One perfectly legal block in the first 20 seconds of the race meant nothing. I didn't hear anyone focusing on it in the aftermath of the race. Absolutely laughable sour grapes...

44 posted on 06/10/2018 8:22:57 PM PDT by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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To: ml/nj

I know little than nothing about racing but watched a documentary on Secretarist last night and while doing so I could see the potential for an owner to enter more than one horse and use the other to run flank and keep the other horses at bay.

It was not until Secretarists had died and autopsy done they discovered his heart was two and half times larger than most horses and why he could run so many laps ahead of the others and not tire as most would.


45 posted on 06/10/2018 8:36:54 PM PDT by caww
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To: carton253

I agree. Smith gave a beautiful ride.


46 posted on 06/10/2018 8:40:42 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: InterceptPoint

That will only happen if another horse is born with the size of Secretariat’s heart....which after Autopsy was found to be one and half times the size of an ordinary horses heart and why he ran as he did. His ability to pump oxygen through his system is why he didn’t tire.

Even so he sure was quite the horse!


47 posted on 06/10/2018 8:41:01 PM PDT by caww
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To: NautiNurse

It’s called Shake and Bake in NASCAR according to Rickie Bobby.


48 posted on 06/10/2018 8:47:13 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Ouch!


49 posted on 06/10/2018 8:50:30 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Do not make me pay Ferrari prices for Chevy Vega health insurance.)
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To: Ouderkirk; ml/nj

The blocking is common in many sporting events to prevent opponents from overtaking another participant. Has happened for many years in football, basketball, ice hockey, auto racing, track races, speed ice skating, cycling races, etc.


50 posted on 06/10/2018 9:16:54 PM PDT by octex
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To: ml/nj

“Restoring Hope continued unnaturally wide until he cut over toward the rail and appeared to shut off Bravaso who was racing just behind Justify who looked as if he might be ranging up to challenge Justify.”

If Bravaso was “ranging up” how could another horse come from way outside across to get in front of Bravaso? Bravaso had to have been slow.

Slow horses don’t win.


51 posted on 06/10/2018 10:17:08 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ml/nj

These stakes race jewels don’t change results.

Avatar practically got knocked over in the 75 Derby, came in second anyhow, and there was nary a word and not even an inquiry.


52 posted on 06/10/2018 10:20:02 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: God luvs America
hence once again it took President Trump 1/7th the amount of time to accomplish something it took obama...

You do know that George Soros is a part owner of that horse right?

53 posted on 06/10/2018 10:21:51 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: ml/nj

Soros taints all he touches.


54 posted on 06/10/2018 10:33:57 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Mueller, Obama, Hillary and Holder each made millions selling US uranium to Putin.)
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To: vortec94

I saw Secretariat win the Belmont. It was jaw dropping.

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Yes it was. Whenever I see that race rerun it gives me goose bumps. The magnificent strength of that beautiful Horse is astounding.


55 posted on 06/11/2018 1:48:30 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: vortec94

Justify ran the Belmont in 2:28.18, not 2:26. Get your facts right. Justify led from the post and won by 2 1/2 lengths. Rising Hope must be a miracle horse to have accomplished all that has been claimed. Sour grapes from the losers.


56 posted on 06/11/2018 3:01:57 AM PDT by .44 Special (Tiamid Buarsh)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Secretariat’s great race in the Belmont or his great leap forward in the Preakness or even his record breaking Kentucky Derby can’t ever diminish Man O’ War’s great legacy.

Can you provide evidence that Secretariat spit his bit. Usually that means the horse doesn’t want to run. That was not Secretariat.


57 posted on 06/11/2018 3:06:59 AM PDT by carton253 (Jesus is everything.)
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To: ml/nj

I am throwing the BS flag here. Bravaso, if interfered with, would have filed a complaint with the stewards.


58 posted on 06/11/2018 3:54:56 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist ( (Be Nice To Your Kids. They Will Pick Out Your Nursing Home))
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To: ml/nj

No different than human races. Do not allow yourself to get pinned. Do not blame others when you allow yourself to get pinned.


59 posted on 06/11/2018 4:34:37 AM PDT by pas
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To: scouter

My two brothers were standardbred trainers/drivers for many years. Believe me, if there were any “pre-race” arrangements made there were at the most, three people who knew what they were. and in this race maybe only two.


60 posted on 06/11/2018 5:47:46 AM PDT by Toespi
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