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This is what I'm going to try to do more often.
1 posted on 06/10/2018 6:27:49 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace

Restore the family and the church, and suicides will naturally go down. Destroy them, and suicides will increase.

It’s that simple.


2 posted on 06/10/2018 6:29:56 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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You want to reduce suicides, put the Clintons in solitary confinement, no chance of parole.


3 posted on 06/10/2018 6:33:37 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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Sure couldn’t hurt...and you will be blessed by it, as well. So not that I “believe” in fortune cookies, yesterday I opened one that said “Be your charming self today to everyone you meet”. Well....at the pharmacy, the grocery store, parking lot, etc, I made sure to hold my head up high, smile at everyone, and, ya know...felt great! And who knows, maybe it meant something to someone. :). Thank you for reminder..I’ll take that as my fortune cookie message for today as well..be encouraging to others at all times.


4 posted on 06/10/2018 6:34:34 AM PDT by ZinGirl (kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
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People commit suicide for many reasons, not just that of low self esteem. In addition, too many murders are wrongly determined to be suicides. But the single biggest issue is the reversal of the axiom that life is precious. That babies can be ripped out of the mother’s womb, without any negative consequences whatsoever.


6 posted on 06/10/2018 6:40:01 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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A friend who lost a child a few years ago was ranting on FB the other day, saying that she was offended when people tell her how “strong” she is and that she wants to be told that she is “brave” instead.

This is how the simple act of compassion has been turned into a verbal minefield for people. You want to be compassionate and say something, but she is actually offended that you didn’t read her mind and choose the right adjective.

Talking to the person you think might off themselves is the same. You have to worry about saying the trigger word or phrase that does make them go do it because some people are that fragile these days.


7 posted on 06/10/2018 6:40:17 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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People are trying to reduce the stigma of suicide... that will increase them


8 posted on 06/10/2018 6:41:00 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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I do that now...


9 posted on 06/10/2018 6:41:49 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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A lot of the suicides are Baby Boomers, who've been raised to be "self-actualized", to have high "self-esteem", to look at "self" above all others.

When they begin to lose their sense of "self", they think life's not worth living anymore.

One way for people to stop killing themselves, is to get their minds off their own faults and problems, and look to Christ. As someone who's screwed up enough to mess up a lot of lives, you just have to learn to plug on, ask forgiveness when you mess up, accept forgiveness when you're asked to, and accept that life is precious and given to us by God.

My wife gets angry with me at this opinion, but I truly believe that Suicide is the most Selfish and Cowardly way to get out of your problems. I understand when there's serious mental illness that consumes and destroys some. Also, I accept soldiers or agents who kill themselves to prevent having information tortured out of them. However, most suicides I've seen have been permanent solutions to temporary problems.

Some excuse Anthony Bourdain's suicide. I don't. He left behind an 11 year old daughter who's going to desperately need her "daddy" in the upcoming years. And, if you believe in a just, righteous God, you understand Bourdain's problems are NOT over, but just beginning.

10 posted on 06/10/2018 6:41:56 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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Emerson Lake and Palmer, 1973

(from their album, “Brain Salad Surgery”)

Karn Evil 9- Third Impression

Man alone, born of stone
Will stamp the dust of time
His hands strike the flame of his soul
Ties a rope to a tree and hangs the Universe
Until the winds of laughter blows cold

Fear that rattles in men’s ears
And rears its hideous head
Dread...Death...in the wind

Man of steel pray and kneel
With fever’s blazing torch
Thrust in the face of the night
Draws a blade of compassion
Kissed by countless Kings
Whose jewelled trumpet words blind his sight

Walls that no man thought would fall
The altars of the just
Crushed...Dust...in the wind...


11 posted on 06/10/2018 6:42:14 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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its not nice to joke about this kind of stuff but what we’ve seen recently adds credence to the notion that liberalism is in fact a mental disorder..


12 posted on 06/10/2018 6:42:53 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: savedbygrace

I think you have done a great service by this post.

Many times it’s the simple things are the most effective.

Hopefully this will give people a purpose and - who knows - this may save/restore lives.

God Bless you.


13 posted on 06/10/2018 6:43:37 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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It’s an age old management technique. Find someone doing something right and compliment them on it.

And it works for all the people around you, not just employees.


18 posted on 06/10/2018 6:48:37 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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Another way; “Lock her up!”


20 posted on 06/10/2018 6:54:49 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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The problem is that people with mental illness don’t believe that family and friends care for them.

They also refuse to get treatment.

My son has bipolar and is refusing treatment. He’s living in our home, and I’m going to kick him out.


22 posted on 06/10/2018 6:58:54 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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I have serveral mental health issues. Some of them very serious. I am plugged into a support group at my mental health provider and they are a big, big believer in cognitive behavioral therapy, which is basically talk it out. They also believe in the power of meds (better living through medicine, one doctor told me), and a comperhinsive approach to behavioral health, which is learning coping strategies, better eating, exercise, building a support group, and so forth, becoming educated about the reality of mental health issues. Something as simple as having access to a crisis hotline is important.

Two three things, we are not meant to be stressed to the point mental health issues causes us to be, and internalizing your trauma/depression/etc. does not work. The hermit is a rare exception, the bible teaches us we are meant to be in relationship, with God, with each other. Finally, untreated mental health issues can manfist itself physically, even if you put aside the risk of suicide.


27 posted on 06/10/2018 7:10:44 AM PDT by goodolemr
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Sometimes trying to help only makes it worse. I have had cousins who were bipolar. Decent behavior while on their meds, but when euphoria strikes, they think they don’t need their meds. Trying to convince someone to get help sometimes just makes them rebel against you. I like your solution, but with some people nothing helps. And as a poster here said a few days ago ‘suicide ends the person’s pain but then transfers it onto those left behind’.


28 posted on 06/10/2018 7:11:41 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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The state in which we live is in the top 5 of suicides. The bulk of them are young men between the age of 15 and 40. The tool of choice is usually a firearm, though a young acquaintance 18 yrs old just used a noose. The main reasons are loneliness and loss of hope.

We have taken away the foundations of hope, which are God, the church and the family. This throws open the gate for nihilism to conquer.


29 posted on 06/10/2018 7:18:17 AM PDT by lurk
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you can’t make another person feel worthy or like their life matters or situations will get better - only God can. The best we can do for a person is point them to Jesus.

I lived it for decades. It was all in my head, tapes going around my brain, filter I ran everything thru, victim, useless, I can’t change, God made me this way, etc.

In my experience a new mind, godly/biblical views on yourself, seeing and accepting real truth about things, is a process God takes a person thru ONLY if they are willing.

All the nice things people said toward me my old mind twisted to make them lies too.

For me, I had to flood my mind with scriptures regarding it and basically beg God repeatedly to change me and my mind to be as He wanted. Over time He did and then it seemed sudden everything ran thru a new filter and made more sense I had real joy even in bad moments, people’s compliments I allowed myself to accept - I had to learn to live free of the old mind/views.

Many people even some believers are still stuck in their old mind and ways of thinking - never really being as useful to God as they could be if they would fully turn their mind over to HIM, so He could show them bigger purposes for their lives than they could ever imagine.


35 posted on 06/10/2018 7:46:44 AM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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A lot of people who commit suicide leave notes that say nobody cares about them, and that they think they're worthless. I want to demonstrate to people that's not true.

Were it that easy. I've heard that the "telltale signs" are there to be observed and reacted to. I've seen that this isn't always the case. Of course at those times when we see someone in obvious distress it behooves us to try to be supportive.

37 posted on 06/10/2018 8:09:30 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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Why not just take em out for coffee and pie?


39 posted on 06/10/2018 8:23:02 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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