Posted on 04/01/2018 9:30:09 AM PDT by Kaslin
Coinciding with the Easter celebration of Jesus Christs resurrection the foundational basis of Christianity is the annual controversy over whether there exists physical proof of this miraculous event.
The evidence is a 14.5' by 3.5' linen cloth known as the Shroud of Turin, believed by millions of Christians to be the authentic burial shroud of Jesus Christ. The cloth is preserved in an underground vault in the Cathedral of Saint John the Baptist in Turin, Italy, where it has resided since 1578.
Visible on the cloth in a faint yellowed color is a full front and back body image of a tortured adult male bearing the wounds of crucifixion. Additionally, every mark on the body image is consistent with the biblical accounts of Christs suffering. For example, there are over 100 scourge marks, while bloodstain patterns on his scalp and forehead suggest the painful crown of thorns. A large blood stain on his side is compatible with a spear wound. His knees are bruised, but his legs are not broken.
Does the Man of the Shroud reflect how Jesus looked the second before his resurrection? Answering that question is precisely why the Shrouds mysterious yet scientifically proven properties have baffled generations of scientists and researchers. Also the reason why the Shroud continues to be the most analyzed artifact in the world.
Lets explore the Shrouds top five mysteries:
Mystery #1: The Shroud photographs as a photo-negative image.
In 1898 an Italian photographer named Secondo Pia obtained permission to apply the new technology of photography to the Shroud. When developing his photos, Pia was astonished to discover the Shrouds first modern unexplained mystery the Shroud photographs as a photo-negative image. That means the Shroud is a negative image that shows up positive when seen in a photographic negative.
Photo-negative image of Shroud of Turin front and back side by side. Credit: © 1978 Barrie M. Schwortz Collection, STERA. Inc. All Rights Reserved. Permission granted to author.
Mystery #2: The Shroud is not the product of an artist.
Fast forward to 1978 when 40 distinguished scientists, famously known as STURP -- Shroud of Turin Research Project, obtained permission to perform what was then state of the art optical and chemical tests on the Shroud. The key objective of STURP was to determine the nature of the cloths image and bloodstains.
In 1981 STURP issued their comprehensive report. The last paragraph of the summary stated: We can conclude for now that the Shroud image is that of a real human form of a scourged, crucified man. It is not the product of an artist. The blood stains are composed of hemoglobin and also give a positive test for serum albumin. The image is an ongoing mystery and until further chemical studies are made, perhaps by this group of scientists, or perhaps by some scientists in the future, the problem remains unsolved.
The Shroud of Turin (vertical position) how it looks to the naked eye. Marks running the length of the Shroud on both sides of the image are from a fire in 1532 that almost destroyed the Shroud. Credit: Giorgio Bracaglia / Holy Shroud Guild PPF. Permission granted to author.
Mystery #3: How was the image formed?
STURPs mission to solve the mystery of the substance used to form the image only deepened when their summary concluded:
No pigments, paints, dyes or stains have been found on the fibrils. X-ray, fluorescence, and microchemistry on the fibrils preclude the possibility of paint being used as a method for creating the image. Ultra Violet and infrared evaluation confirm these studies.
Mystery #4: The Shroud is encoded with 3D distance information.
Again, from STURPs final report summary:
Computer image enhancement and analysis by a device known as a VP-8 image analyzer show that the image has unique, three-dimensional information encoded in it.
This 3D encoded information first visualized by STURP on a primitive image analyzer in 1978, was updated in 2010 and served as the basis for the History Channels documentary, The Real Face of Jesus? Seen by millions, the popular documentary aired annually on Easter weekend between the years 2010 2017.
I asked Ray Downing, the 3D artist who starred in the documentary and produced a life-portrait of Jesus based on the Shrouds 3D information, to further explain this phenomenon. Downing said:
What the Shroud mysteriously seems to retain is information about the distance the cloth was from parts of the body it presumably rested on, as well as parts of the body it was not in direct contact with.
Mystery #5: Shroud image is uniform in intensity across both frontal and dorsal images.
Here to explain this unexplainable uniform intensity is Russ Breault, a world renowned Shroud expert who also starred in The Real Face of Jesus? Breault says:
The image appears because something caused the accelerated dehydration and oxidation of the cellulose fibers comprising the linenNOT because of any substance applied to the cloth. The image is only two micro-fibers deepabout 1% of a single thread and is uniform in intensity throughout the cloth--with no deviation -- a feat impossible with human hands!
There are many more Shroud mysteries, but the previous five are the most baffling to scientists. Now the stage is set for what I call Controversy #1 the 1988 carbon-14 dating.
In 1988 the Shroud underwent a process known as carbon-14 dating. The test dated the Shroud between the years 1260 1390. Immediately headlines around the globe screamed that the Shroud was a medieval forgery Today that moniker is still prevalent among Shroud naysayers, but those dates do not address or negate the five mysteries.
Subsequently, during last 30 years, the carbon -14 dating has been continually questioned and criticized. Again, here is Russ Breault to elaborate on this lingering controversy:
The carbon dating controversy centers around tiny samples of the Shroud cut from an outer corner of the cloth. The area cut is from the most held and handled section thought to have been added during the Middle Ages as a repair or a re-weave. Then, in 2005, evidence for the repair was published in a peer-reviewed journal by chemist Ray Rogers, a STURP team member. Furthermore, a new Shroud dating analysis method originating at Padua University in Italy was published in 2013. That research dated the Shroud between 280 BC - AD 220, a 500-year timeframe that includes AD 33, the year traditionally associated with Christs crucifixion.
Unfortunately, the Vatican has yet to authorize any new comprehensive 21st century scientific examinations of the Shroud guaranteeing that it will remain one of the worlds greatest mysteries.
Finally, Easter Sunday is the time to focus on the meaning of the resurrection of Jesus.
Still, the question remains, Does the Shroud provide physical proof?
Meanwhile, the Shrouds very existence causes us all to ask the same question Jesus asked Peter, Who do you say that I am?
Contemplate that question and have a Happy Easter!
It looks like God treated it with reverence, because the last time it was seen, it was in heaven.
Revelation 11:19
Then Gods temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant could be seen in the temple.
The nails were driven through the wrist between the radius and ulna bones because that's the only way they'd support the weight of a human body. If the nails were driven through the hands then the hands would just tear away from them.
That is a good point. I don't recall seeing any artwork in which the wrist is depicted as the point of fixing the nails.
Sorry, not real and a serious mark of faithlessness to feel such an artifact is necessary.
Christ is Risen.
Don’t need a painted sheet to know that.
OK.
I don't know the details of the shroud and I really don't care. No doubt throughout his life thousands of scraps of cloth came in contact with Jesus so this is just one of them. But I like the point you made about God not wanting us to worship anything that is physical (yes, it's Biblical, from the Ten Commandments) but instead just worship the Word who became flesh.
Happy Resurrection Day, brother!
I have heard arguments pro and con about the authenticity of the Shroud. I’ve decided it has no impact whatsoever on my faith. If it’s a true image of the buried Christ, how awesome. If it isn’t, I don’t care. My faith is tied to a cross, not a cloth.
We will just have to agree to disagree. (won’t be the first time) But know that I respect you very much, enjoy your witness on the board and try to read every thing you post. I don’t want to hijack this thread and certainly don’t want to turn it into a Catholic/Protestant food fight. Unfortunately, FR has been plagued by way too much of that in the past. As a peace offering I would serve up a link to the entire 1977 “Jesus of Nazareth” mini series on youtube. If you haven’t seen this it is awesome - an A-list cast and a magical production. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruLjkt-5Kao
“on fragments obtained from the shroud.’
when obtained?
from where on the shroud?
or left overs cut from the corner piece previously mentioned?
info you quoted doesn’t really conclude anything with out more specifics. the sentence doesn’t even specify what shroud he tested, just “the shroud” so the reader has to consider they mean the shroud of Turin.
I also appreciate the link, and follow up with one of my own, and under 2 minutes. I think you'll love this: Christ's Resurrection joyously proclaimed in Arabic, in Lebanon:
>>Would that DNA be truly human or would it be divine?<<
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Isn’t DNA associated only with cellular matter? And isn’t matter created? The Divine(uncreated) has no cellular structure as far as I understand.
“burial cloths”
Plural.
Multiple cloths. Strips.
The Shroud of Turin story doesn’t even get the manner Christ was wrapped up correct.
“When Simon Peter arrived after him, he went into the tomb and saw the burial cloths there, and the cloth that had covered his head, not with the burial cloths but rolled up in a separate place.”
It is explicit in describing more than one big cloth with the cloth His head was wrapped in being apart from the other cloths His body was wrapped in.
bttt
Enjoy!
There are 2 cloths. The Shroud of Turin and the Sudarium of Oviedo (face cloth).
One article where both are discussed:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/04/shroud-turin-jesus-christ-blood-relic-sudarium-oviedo/
There is no DIRECT evidence e.g a witness that saw that shroud was wrapped on Jesus’body or one who saw that shroud taken off His body accompanied by evidence from that time about who had the shroud in posession at all times.
But there is evidence e.g. comports with Bible descriptions and all other scientific evidence.
Skepticism is good. Cynicism not.
It is said that the image on the soudarium exactly overlaps the face image on the Shroud. The two images are of the same face.
Pair of slacks....singular.
Well now this is an interesting discussion topic. God came down to earth and became man, truly man. Meaning while he was perfect, he still had same the earthly needs as us, still felt physical and personal pain, with all the organs of a human, and still bled just like any of us. So we have to assume that Jesus' body was identical to ours in all ways, in my view.
That means, on the surface, that Jesus had DNA just as we did, too. He was fully human. There is no Biblical evidence otherwise.
The only things that make me doubt this 100% full man description is that Jesus was sinless and incapable of mistake or fault.
So, and I was only speculating, wouldn't it be cool to think that Jesus did have DNA, but it was of a form that today's science wouldn't recognize, and might be considered perfect? Or, maybe He had no DNA, proving that his life had to be divinely made?
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