They’re ok with that because they promote the idea the parties switched ideologies at some point; so the repubs are really the democrats of today.
Regards,
Saw it in the theater and have the DVD. I enjoyed it not for the history, which had numerous liberties taken on it, but for the performances by Daniel Day Lewis, David Strathairn, and James Spader. Tommy Lee Jones and Jared Harris were excellent as well. Sally Fields, on the other hand, was horrible.
This the same movie shown in theaters awhile back? That one was pretty good.
Aside from it being one of the most boring Civil War movies that I ever seen, you would have thought that they were trying to convey the idea that Lincoln would be a Democrat in today’s World.
Yeah - I almost turned it off...glad I didn’t. It was better than I thought it would be.
No, and I haven’t seen his “Johnson” on Netflix either.
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Very boring movie. Liberals don’t care about history, they think history began on the day they were hatched.
pretty entertaining film
lots of talking.
not real action packed.
but good.
And look, the Radical Republicans were a bit too over the top I think. They had their hearts in the right place but I think the viciousness was not needed.
Frankly, I think humankind was moving toward ending slavery in the states as it had been in England.
The institution would’ve ended in a slower, less deadly way. And by the way, is it impossible to think the states rights issue would’ve moved in a more southern direction if Dixie had decided to end slavery more quickly?
I know all this might be anathema to some, but I think states rights are good and slavery was bad....so I am just thinking out loud that if King Cotton had stopped involuntary servitude it would’ve fared better for a more structured federalist system. Instead, we got an overbearing bureaucracy in DC and hundreds of thousands of Americans killed in the War Between the States.
And the hatred with which both sides, north and south, sometimes viewed each other, was sad.
jmho.
Amazing even in lincoln’s day how effective Marx’s writings had become here!
(Published in Greeley’s NYT for approx 10 years)
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I thought it was informative and excellent and the PCBS was mild by today’s standards.
Frankly, with Spielberg being the boss on the movie. It was surprisingly balanced.
I saw the film. It was good. But the focused on the words “Republican” and “Democrat” wasn’t emphasized.
It was just the Southern racists against change vs. The progressive Northerners.
One thing everyone forgets about Lincoln is that he wasn’t able to avoid War that killed 1.3 million Americans. If someone else would have been elected in 1960 (which almost happened, he should have lost the Democratic Party bid), the Civil War might have been avoided. And a peaceful end of slavery might have happened 20 years later.
We will never know. But nobody ever holds Lincoln responsible for NOT being able to avoid the Civil War.
I particularly enjoyed the sense of humor that came through in Day-Lewis’ performance. And I cried when Lincoln was shot.
It was so boring I only made it through the first 20 minutes.
Never watched it, but spent a lot of time in my younger days reading old and new books about Lincoln's life and death. The Dems tried to stop the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 too. If it wasn't for the Republicans, it would never have passed.
From Wikipedia:
"When the bill came before the full Senate for debate on March 30, 1964, the "Southern Bloc" of 18 southern Democratic Senators and one Republican Senator led by Richard Russell (D-GA) launched a filibuster to prevent its passage.[16] Said Russell: "We will resist to the bitter end any measure or any movement which would have a tendency to bring about social equality and intermingling and amalgamation of the races in our (Southern) states."[17]
16 - Narrative: The Civil Rights Act of 1964
17 - The Civil Rights Act: What JFK, LBJ, Martin Luther King and Malcolm X had to say
It also says that Senator Strom Thurmond (D-SC) was the most fervent opponent of the Bill's passage.