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Many older Americans are living a desperate, nomadic life
MarketWatch ^ | 4Feb18 | Richard Eisenberg

Posted on 02/04/2018 8:54:17 AM PST by qaz123

The “workamper” jobs range from helping harvest sugar beets to flipping burgers at baseball spring training games to Amazon’s AMZN, +2.87% “CamperForce,” seasonal employees who can walk the equivalent of 15 miles a day during Christmas season pulling items off warehouse shelves and then returning to frigid campgrounds at night. Living on less than $1,000 a month, in certain cases, some have no hot showers. As Bruder writes, these are “people who never imagined being nomads.” Many saw their savings wiped out during the Great Recession or were foreclosure victims and, writes Bruder, “felt they’d spent too long losing a rigged game.” Some were laid off from high-paying professional jobs. Few have chosen this life. Few think they can find a way out of it. They’re downwardly mobile older Americans in mobile homes

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: boomers; economy; jobs; nomads; olderamericans; parttimejobs; seniors
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To: dfwgator

I didn’t get a real chance until my 40’s but some real estate might save my ass.

If I can get one property paid in 7 years, I’m OK. 16% going into the 401.


121 posted on 02/04/2018 1:00:55 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: eyedigress

That’s my advice, is buy some rental properties and set yourself up to live on the income from the rents. Start accumulating properties early, add a new one every few years, so when you retire you have around 10 properties, averaging about $1000 a month free-and-clear each.


122 posted on 02/04/2018 1:05:33 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: qaz123

I’d rather empty wastebaskets at night in office buildings. I’m a nightowl, nobody around to aggravate me and no stress. :-)


123 posted on 02/04/2018 1:34:48 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: qaz123

I was born under a wandering star.


124 posted on 02/04/2018 1:42:52 PM PST by Leep (The dims better watch it..Trump is CRAZY!!)
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To: Vermont Lt

My husband read an article which discussed a survey of middle aged Americans: nearly 70% said their main retirement “financial” plan was “family taking care of them.” I hope that works out for them.

We have one child, our daughter, 30 years old, single mom, one grandchild. We have gone out of our way to save a lot of money for retirement , have long-term/nursing home insurance, and we have no debt of any kind. It would be very unfair of us to expect our daughter to take care of us in our old age.


125 posted on 02/04/2018 1:47:22 PM PST by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves."y)
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To: qaz123
You working in a Union Auto Assembly plant. You mean one of those ones where guys were making over $100/hr with coffee breaks,

Union, yes, but Nope, simply a Tier I supplier where the non skilled production workers who I mentioned above made a max of $19.00 per hour.

Having obviously never worked in auto manufacturing, you are both clueless and ignorant.........

The lower the tier, the lower the wages and benefits......And in every aspect, the working conditions in those plants don't even come close to the sterilized conditions of an Amazon warehouse......

126 posted on 02/04/2018 1:48:20 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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To: dfwgator

Ya sure that will be enough.
?
What about a Jeep and a motorcycle?


127 posted on 02/04/2018 1:48:29 PM PST by Leep (The dims better watch it..Trump is CRAZY!!)
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To: proxy_user
I would think if you had some sort of skills and education, you could get better jobs than this.

You sound like the sort of person who prepared well for their golden years. Many don't, and are forced to seek progressively lower paying, more demeaning work, as they age.

It's just a fact. Older people are routinely discriminated against in the workplace.

128 posted on 02/04/2018 1:48:42 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: proxy_user

I would get an EA and do tax returns,


What is an EA?


129 posted on 02/04/2018 2:01:08 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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To: Mr. K

“Thanks for setting rules for everyone else to live by.”

I didn’t set a single rule for anyone.

Everyone should do as they damn well please.


130 posted on 02/04/2018 2:08:10 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Freedom56v2

https://www.irs.gov/tax-professionals/enrolled-agents/enrolled-agent-information

All you have to do is pass the test. Anyone can sit for it.


131 posted on 02/04/2018 2:15:56 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: tbw2

“Medicaid claw back regulations”

You can transfer to your spouse without penalty.


132 posted on 02/04/2018 2:15:57 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Wrong they take the whole egg.


133 posted on 02/04/2018 2:18:35 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Mariner

Transferred? Like to East Rutherford?


134 posted on 02/04/2018 2:26:00 PM PST by Reily
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To: qaz123
As a side note, I hardly expect a thirty year old kid who is involved in LoveShack to be able to relate to age 60+ individuals who have spent their lives in manufacturing facilities but yet you have the gall to criticize them for whatever wages they accomplished.

You've done nothing in your life compared to them kid. In fact, it was our generation that has given you EVERY SINGLE LUXURY Y0U ARE EXPERIENCING........

Want to talk? Call me on a rotary phone............LOL!

135 posted on 02/04/2018 2:29:24 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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To: qaz123

How about people who trusted what were suppose to be reputable financial advisers only to find out those advisers for most duty was not to you their clients, but to the firm and their own year end bonus.


136 posted on 02/04/2018 2:35:30 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other opleoour lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: PAR35

Or they could get another job.


137 posted on 02/04/2018 2:40:57 PM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: RegulatorCountry

There is always a better way than paying what amounts to 40% interest to get money. You can bag groceries while you look for a job. Deliver pizzas. Borrow money at a decent interest rate.
People raid their 401k’s because “The money is just sitting there”. I have never met a single person who raided their 401K who didn’t have an alternative. Every one of them was shocked when they found they had to pay that 10% penalty at tax time, despite the fact that people told them.
These people raided their 401k’s but somehow found the money to get an RV. Imagine that!


138 posted on 02/04/2018 2:46:28 PM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: PAR35

Get a credit card at 26% interest. It is still cheaper than raiding your 401k.


139 posted on 02/04/2018 2:47:22 PM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: morphing libertarian

One of my friends worked in Leavenworth for years. Now he does prison ministry. It’s a completely different scene for him.
I roomed with a former prisoner(murder) at a retreat. It was amazing how they adapt to circumstances. He stashed food everywhere in the room. They found a knife under his mattress when they made the bed.


140 posted on 02/04/2018 2:51:52 PM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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