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The ONLY reason the Leopard IIs are "proven embarrassingly vulnerable in combat" is because the crews manning them dont know how to properly use the miraculous tool at their disposal.
Posted on 01/31/2018 5:26:53 AM PST by C19fan
Germany’s Leopard 2 main battle tank has a reputation as one of the finest in the world, competing for that distinction with proven designs such as the American M-1 Abrams and the British Challenger 2. However, that reputation for nigh-invincibility has faced setbacks on Syrian battlefields, and placed Berlin in a uniquely awkward national-level dispute with Turkey, its fellow NATO member.
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Rather than using them in a combined arms force alongside mutually supporting infantry, they were deployed to the rear as long-range fire-support weapons while Turkish-allied Syrian militias stiffened with Turkish special forces led the assaults. Isolated on exposed firing positions without adequate nearby infantry to form a good defensive perimeter, the Turkish Leopards were vulnerable to ambushes.
Surprised the Turks are making these mistakes. They had a reputation of the being one of the most professional armies after Israel in the Middle East. Perhaps Erdogan's purge of the army and promotion of officers based on loyalty not talent has caused the army to deteriorate.
I learned, playing Command and Conquer Generals, how important infantry is to protecting my tanks. Snipers are even better. :)
You could be quite correct there. I used to compare them to the Shah’s military before 1979...the Shah was doing all he could to drag the muslims there kicking and screaming into the 20th century before we stabbed him in the back.
And vice versa. Do you want to charge the machine gun nest, or do you want to walk behind the tank that is rolling towards the machine gun nest?
I’ll take an MLRS strike on the machine gun nest and leave work early.
Democrats largely let the media control their foreign policy. That’s how we ended up in Yugoslavia.
The Leopard II is an old design. Almost 40 years old.
It depends on whether the nest is flinging AT-14’s at the tank.
When I get a group of tanks protected by a few snipers, the whole group is pretty much unstoppable.
The ONLY reason the Leopard IIs are "proven embarrassingly vulnerable in combat" is because the crews manning them dont know how to properly use the miraculous tool at their disposal.
Me too. I would have thought they would have absorbed some NATO doctrine but I guess they think they know better.
I notice that the soldier didn’t completely empty the bottle into the mug ... keeping a little bit for himself ...
Good German beer, you gotta leave a little head room.
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The majority of the conscripts wind up in the Turkish Army. Also, majority of their Navy and Air Force officers and senior enlisted have trained in US, while that’s not true for Army.
Man - Machine - Training. They’re one for three.
And what does that say about Turkish tactics? By mixing their SF with militia, and not bringing up tanks to support, they do not want their FLOT discovered.
That means they do not have adequate counter-measures for enemy air, to include drones.
Spot on. That is one of the main reasons leftists should never be allowed to have their rat claws anywhere near the levers of power.
Ever.
Kurds have Javelins.
It’s fire and forget and pops up to hit the tank from the top.
“The ONLY reason the Leopard IIs are “proven embarrassingly vulnerable in combat” is because the crews manning them dont know how to properly use the miraculous tool at their disposal.”
Agreed.
#9 I wish my car that good of suspension!
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