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Rather than using them in a combined arms force alongside mutually supporting infantry, they were deployed to the rear as long-range fire-support weapons while Turkish-allied Syrian militias stiffened with Turkish special forces led the assaults. Isolated on exposed firing positions without adequate nearby infantry to form a good defensive perimeter, the Turkish Leopards were vulnerable to ambushes.

Surprised the Turks are making these mistakes. They had a reputation of the being one of the most professional armies after Israel in the Middle East. Perhaps Erdogan's purge of the army and promotion of officers based on loyalty not talent has caused the army to deteriorate.

1 posted on 01/31/2018 5:26:53 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

I learned, playing Command and Conquer Generals, how important infantry is to protecting my tanks. Snipers are even better. :)


2 posted on 01/31/2018 5:33:29 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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You could be quite correct there. I used to compare them to the Shah’s military before 1979...the Shah was doing all he could to drag the muslims there kicking and screaming into the 20th century before we stabbed him in the back.


3 posted on 01/31/2018 5:48:34 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: C19fan; FreedomPoster; Delta 21; mostly cajun; archy; Gringo1; Matthew James; Fred Mertz; ...

FReeper TREADHEAD PING

The ONLY reason the Leopard IIs are "proven embarrassingly vulnerable in combat" is because the crews manning them dont know how to properly use the miraculous tool at their disposal.


9 posted on 01/31/2018 6:15:40 AM PST by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: C19fan
Surprised the Turks are making these mistakes.

Me too. I would have thought they would have absorbed some NATO doctrine but I guess they think they know better.

10 posted on 01/31/2018 6:16:03 AM PST by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: C19fan
Agreed. This has nothing to do with the design and capabilities of this tank. It's employment.

And what does that say about Turkish tactics? By mixing their SF with militia, and not bringing up tanks to support, they do not want their FLOT discovered.

That means they do not have adequate counter-measures for enemy air, to include drones.

15 posted on 01/31/2018 7:05:29 AM PST by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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It's not the Tanks it's the Morons inside
16 posted on 01/31/2018 7:08:03 AM PST by butlerweave
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http://www.conflict-news.com/articles/the-us-are-supplying-javelin-anti-tank-missiles-to-the-ypg-in-syria

Kurds have Javelins.

It’s fire and forget and pops up to hit the tank from the top.


18 posted on 01/31/2018 7:37:53 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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