How the discovery of an ancient mastodon ignited debate over humans’ arrival in North America

LA TIMES ^ | Dec. 22, 2017 | Thomas Curwen

[PIF]

Accidental find that could revolutionize North America Archeology

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"Jim Paces, a geochronologist at the U.S. Geological Survey in Denver, took dozens of slices from a rib and two femurs. Each slice, no wider than a millimeter, was dissolved in nitric acid.

"The resulting solution contained trace amounts of uranium and thorium, which Paces extracted. After measuring those concentrates in a mass spectrometer, Paces concluded that the bones were 130,700 years old, plus or minus 9,400 years."

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"The conclusion seemed clear: Hominids, wandering through Southern California, had found a mastodon carcass and gone to work. They hauled cobblestones to the site and pounded the bones, cut out the marrow for food and broke off splinters for tools."

[PIF]

Very interesting - no one knows who these people were - choices for that period are Neanderthal, Denisovan, Home Sapiens.

[BenLurkin]

The indigenous peoples lived peacefully with the mastodons, until the Europeans arrived and hunted the mastodons out of existence.

[morphing libertarian]

They we’re obviously in soCal illegally

[WayneS]

Of course. Everything is the fault of white people of European descent.

[WayneS]

Of course. Everything is the fault of white people of European descent.

[blueunicorn6]

Very true.

Often times the Indians would invite the mastodons over for some coffee and cake and to play some cards.

[morphing libertarian]

and they would pack their trunks and stay over

[shotgun]

Same with the estimated 40,000 000 buffalo. But we never see the piles of bones from those.

[Reily]

See! see! again more examples of Neanderthal genocide by the hated Cro-Magnon oppressors!

[Varda]

Add Homo erectus. They survived in Asia maybe as recently as 25Kya. I think a case can be made for them in the America’s.

[BenLurkin]

That's Homo Erectus on the right...

[blueunicorn6]

Hippies.

Dirty, filthy, stinking hippies eating roadkill and making jewelry out of dead possums.

[blueunicorn6]

Sometimes, it was like they were never going to leave.

“Dang It! Who ate the last piece of cake?”

“It was Mike Mastadon.”

“When is that freeloader going to leave? He’s really stretched out my pajamas.”

[marktwain]

I do not find the evidence convincing.

It is clearly a fragmentary bit of mastodon. No skull to go with the tusks, much of the skeleton smashed.

So something smashed and separated the skeleton. There are many possibilities.

I recall a very similar analysis by Robert Audrey, in African Genesis. Eventually it came out that all could be explained by leopards preying on early hominids and stashing the carcasses in a tree that overhung a cave mouth (which would be a very popular site for ancient leopards).

Imagine a big tree with broken limbs, caught in a flood and smashing up and down on a bit of mastodon carcass, for example.

[Wissa]

Same with the estimated 40,000 000 buffalo. But we never see the piles of bones from those.

Buffalo bones were gathered up and sold. They were shipped east where they were put to various uses.

[faithhopecharity]

Obama says they were Muslims

[Salvavida]

I thought I could get through the day without seeing a picture of that faggot. Thanks, man.

[Alas Babylon!]

For your review!

[PIF]

Imagine that your mechanism pushed a mastodon tusk many feet absolutely straight down into the ground ... One of the possibilities are the man-made round stones found with the bones, and that the one inch thick bones had the marrow removed by use of said stones. That’s just the neighborhood smilodon, you say? Using tools ... clever cats, eh?

Whether you are convinced or not, it seems that many of those with credentials, who have actually looked and studied this find over the years, do no dismiss this find out of hand as you have sight unseen.

[Bringbackthedraft]

So? We finally found that America was found before Columbus? Who knew? (LOL)