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Oldest Spiral Galaxy Ever Seen May Reveal Secrets About the Milky Way
Space.Com ^ | November 07, 2017 | Calla Cofield, Space.com Senior Writer

Posted on 11/11/2017 11:34:42 PM PST by ETL

Oldest Spiral Galaxy Ever Seen May Reveal Secrets About the Milky Way

The two small, inset images show actual observations of the most ancient spiral galaxy ever observed. The rest of the image is an artist's illustration showing how a massive galaxy cluster bends and magnifies the light from the distant galaxy, making it visible to astronomers on Earth.

Astronomers have uncovered an ancient cosmic artifact 11 billion light-years from Earth: the oldest spiral galaxy ever seen. 

The newly discovered galaxy, known as A1689B11, is an ancestor of modern spiral galaxies like our own Milky Way, which are defined by long tentacles of gas, dust and stars that wrap around the galaxy's central bulge

"Spiral galaxies are exceptionally rare in the early universe, and this discovery opens the door to investigating how galaxies transition from highly chaotic, turbulent discs to tranquil, thin discs like those of our own Milky Way galaxy," Renyue Cen, a co-author of the new paper describing the findings and a senior research astronomer at Princeton University, said in a statement.

Galaxies come in many different shapes and sizes, and researchers think many spiral galaxies form mainly through mergers of smaller elliptical galaxies, although many factors can affect how a galaxy changes its shape over time, according to NASA. Elliptical galaxies are disks that can be mostly circular or very elongated but lack the arm-like features of spiral galaxies.

Astronomer Edwin Hubble was one of the first people to theorize that elliptical galaxies evolved to form spiral galaxies, although he did not fully appreciate the complexity of galaxy evolution, according to the European Space Agency's Hubble Space Telescope website. Nonetheless, researchers still refer to the time in cosmic history when spiral galaxies began to form from elliptical galaxies as "the Hubble sequence." 

"Studying ancient spirals like A1689B11 is a key to unlocking the mystery of how and when the Hubble sequence emerges," Cen said in the statement from Swinburne University in Australia (where some of the other co-authors are based). Previously, researchers reported finding spiral galaxies that date back 10.7 billion years

The newly discovered galaxy is too far away to be observed directly with modern instruments. So the researchers took advantage of a natural phenomenon known as gravitational lensing, in which the gravity of a massive object (like a galaxy or a cluster of galaxies) bends and amplifies the light from an object that lies beyond it (as seen by an observer). In this way, the authors of the new research paper were able to detect light from the very distant spiral galaxy A1689B11 by looking for the effects of gravitational lensing around the edge of a galaxy cluster that is nearer to Earth. 

The observations were conducted using an instrument called the Near-infrared Integral Field Spectrograph on the Gemini North telescope, located on Mauna Kea in Hawaii. The researchers were able to "look 11 billion years back in time and directly witness the formation of the first, primitive spiral arms of a galaxy," Cen said in the statement.

Because light travels at a finite speed, the light from A1689B11 left that galaxy 11 billion years ago, when the universe was less than 3 billion years old. In this way, astronomers can look back in time and learn about the history of the universe through direct observations. 



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To: ETL

I suggest that if you intend to visit, book passage on a very, very fast vessel, so that time, as you experience it, will be much, much less than 11 billion years.

https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/201412/muon.cfm

As a practical matter, even if the vessel’s speed is constrained only by accelerations that humans can survive, it might take several lifetimes to complete the journey.


21 posted on 11/12/2017 5:58:49 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: ETL

To your twin brother on earth the journey will still take at least 22 billion years, so things might change in the meantime. The sun will be dwarf, and the earth will probably not survive, but if it does, it will be little more than a cold cinder. It’s unlikely you will recognize your old neighborhood.


22 posted on 11/12/2017 6:03:16 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: ETL

“Non-visible/optical images (infrared, UV, gamma, microwave, radio, etc) are typically converted to false color images in order that there is something for people to see and study.”

I don’t know which type of eye-candy I like better, super-enhanced digital images of galaxies, stars and nebulae light years away or some of the cars I’ve been seeing in HDTV on the Barrett-Jackson and Mecum auto auctions.


23 posted on 11/12/2017 6:14:40 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: ETL

“What exactly are you referring to? “

11 billion years does not equate to 11 light years.

Years is a measure of time, but a light-year is a measure of distance.

It would still be 11 billion light years away, whatever that would be in miles or other distance unit of measure.


24 posted on 11/12/2017 6:20:30 AM PST by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: CodeToad

I explained in post 2 that I simply made a mistake leaving out billion in the first part of the post, but had it in the final part. And I know that a light-year is a distance. I think I made that pretty clear.

“That is, it’s ‘11 light-years away’, where ONE light-year, the *distance* light travels in a year at its fixed speed of 186,000 miles per second, works out to about 5.9 TRILLION miles. And so this ancient galaxy is 5.9 trillion x 11 billion miles away.”


25 posted on 11/12/2017 6:33:37 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: CodeToad

...and as was pointed out by another poster and in the piece I followed up with on “Distances in an expanding universe”, the actual distance may be much more than 11 billion light years.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/104-the-universe/cosmology-and-the-big-bang/expansion-of-the-universe/619-how-do-we-define-distance-in-an-expanding-universe-intermediate


26 posted on 11/12/2017 6:38:59 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL

Kind of look looks like a swastika?


27 posted on 11/12/2017 7:18:31 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: ETL

That’s one interpretation, by far the most common one. There’s another one, you say, ‘Civ? That guy, he never gives up... ;^)

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/haltonarp/index?tab=articles


28 posted on 11/12/2017 7:25:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

Long ago and far, far away! LOL!


29 posted on 11/12/2017 8:05:57 AM PST by left that other site (For America to have CONFIDENCE in our future, we must have PRIDE in our HISTORY... DJT)
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To: ETL

Cosmology and astronomy are simply fascinating!


30 posted on 11/12/2017 10:27:30 AM PST by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: ZULU

I remember back in the mid-eighties when galactic lensing was first discovered. It was puzzling at the time and was described as McDonald arches in deep space. LOL It wasn’t much longer until explanations were rolled out.


31 posted on 11/12/2017 12:52:41 PM PST by sparklite2 (-)
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To: ETL

Einstein once said that an Earthling observer, if his eyes were like telescopes, could see the farthest objects, and if the observer had ENOUGH time, eventually he would see...

The back of his head!


32 posted on 11/12/2017 2:21:38 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Oops! Post 33 was meant for another thread.

Sorry.


34 posted on 11/12/2017 5:31:34 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL

Here is video of the flight of the space probe.
Turns out there is a giant little girl in that galaxy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwhQB3TKXA


35 posted on 11/12/2017 5:54:38 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: Alas Babylon!
Einstein once said that an Earthling observer, if his eyes were like telescopes, could see the farthest objects, and if the observer had ENOUGH time, eventually he would see... The back of his head!

That was because he mistakenly believe the universe, due to gravitational attraction, would eventually collapse upon itself. ie, be a "closed universe". But observations at the time seemed to indicate that the universe was "static". This was why he concocted the "cosmological constant", which was to be some mysterious anti-gravity force that would precisely balance out regular gravity.

Then when it was discovered that the universe was actually not static, but rather expanding, he called his introduction of the CC the 'greatest blunder' of his life. Turned out many years later that the universe is not simply expanding, but accelerating, as if there actually were some anti-gravity force pushing galaxies apart.

36 posted on 11/12/2017 5:56:53 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ZULU
#30 Here is one of the astronomers investigating the makeup of cosmology.

Blnk
37 posted on 11/12/2017 5:59:01 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound
gifs website
38 posted on 11/12/2017 6:14:59 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: from occupied ga; ETL

A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you’re talking about real time................


39 posted on 11/13/2017 6:14:08 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yes, I have wondered for years why nobody ever thought of that.

This ‘old galaxy’ might just be US!..........


40 posted on 11/13/2017 6:16:25 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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