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Who is the leader of the swamp/ deep state?

Posted on 11/11/2017 1:03:43 PM PST by MNDude

It seems undeniable that there is indeed a deep state power structure in place. I'm curious, do you think it has a leader? If so, who do you think it would be? The clintons? John McCain? Soros? Your thoughts?


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To: MrsEmmaPeel
Good answer...

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21 posted on 11/11/2017 1:28:50 PM PST by a little elbow grease (...... it's hard to get by just upon a smile)
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To: MNDude

Bill Kristol.


22 posted on 11/11/2017 1:29:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
Rothschilds


23 posted on 11/11/2017 1:30:08 PM PST by Company Man (It's Okay to be a Christian conservative cis white male over 50)
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To: MNDude

I am not sure there is one leader. But the head of The National Federation of Federal Employees (NFFE), Howard Marion McLarin is one of them. Othera are the guys running Freddy Mac and its sister organizations Fannie and Sallie. These three pay more for lobbyists than anyone else.

But there is a fight for what exists now. which is controlled by large lobbying firms, rich Pacs, and heads of committees and appointed officials who can stay in power longer than the elected politicians that appointed them.

These people make sure that spending never goes down. No matter what happens to Taxes. These folks always fight for the spending. And they fight against government efficiency or worker productivity.


24 posted on 11/11/2017 1:30:08 PM PST by poinq
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To: MNDude

Most likely not a single person, but rather a collection of elites, and not necessarily all Americans.


25 posted on 11/11/2017 1:34:51 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: central_va
The MSM calls the shots.

I agree.

It doesn't need a single leader. I think it's what Marx would have recognised as a 'class', lead by a common self-interest.
26 posted on 11/11/2017 1:36:04 PM PST by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: MNDude

There is no leadership. It is the Lobbying system. The politicians do not represent the voters, they represent the highest bidder who owns them. The FBI, CIA, and the “News” propaganda media are like the armed forces who defend the Deep State system


27 posted on 11/11/2017 1:37:44 PM PST by KTM rider
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To: Conservative Gato

OBAMA IS THEIR LEADER!


28 posted on 11/11/2017 1:37:49 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: davius

“He drives a Honda Odyssey”

Why a Honda?


29 posted on 11/11/2017 1:42:23 PM PST by NYAmerican
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To: MNDude

I’ve asked the question numerous times here at FR, but nobody responds. “Who is on the other end of the morning phone calls with Schumer?”

Whoever it is would probably be able to lead us to exactly who it is leading the “Deep State”.

I believe it is a cabal of international wealth with leftist designs for Worldwide leadership. I believe they are manipulating resources around the World to achieve their goal of global reign.

One of their primary interests is to eliminate the power of the U.S.A. to stop them from achieving the tyranny they propose.


30 posted on 11/11/2017 1:44:10 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: MNDude

Bilderbergers, Trilateralists, Globalists, Illuminati, CIA, Campfire Girls.


31 posted on 11/11/2017 1:50:02 PM PST by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: MNDude

Satan


32 posted on 11/11/2017 1:50:38 PM PST by polymuser (Enough is enough.)
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To: Yaelle

“I believe it is a Cabal not one person. And they are not all of the USA.”

A cabal of crime families and they’re not all like the Clintons.


33 posted on 11/11/2017 1:50:46 PM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
OBAMA IS THEIR LEADER!

He could very well be now that the multi-billionaire prince of Saudi Arabia, who paid for 0bama's college education, has been taken down along with all his money and influence in this country.

Remember, 0bama and Valjar have kept a base in the DC swamp so it may be up to him to call the shots now. He's a terrible leader on his own so it will be fun watching all this come crumbling down around him and all the bad players in the DC swamp.

FWIW, after reading and watching the researchers on Youtube, I do believe Las Vegas was the trigger, which was bought and paid for by these corrupt people in the Saudi government. This was a power play by the coalition in the DC swamp to show President Donald Trump their might and chaos they can still cause.

I also believe, that's why the news has been so vanilla on the Las Vegas terrorist attack, is President Donald J Trump was having none of it and had a Come-To-Jesus moment with the King of Saudi Arabia and now these corrupt people inside their government is being taken out.

It could very well be the whole coalition of the DC swamp had a hand in their own demise if this continues to play out and the truth be known. There will be many that will hang for this and they know it so we all have to be cautious on just how desperate they will become and continued prayers for the safety of our President.

CGato

34 posted on 11/11/2017 1:51:39 PM PST by Conservative Gato (There are NOW 4 kind of LIES; Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and the Media.)
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To: Conservative Gato
Obama was a figurehead put up to give Reid and Pelosi what they wanted.

But they're so unimpressive you can't really call them leaders either.

35 posted on 11/11/2017 1:53:09 PM PST by x
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To: MNDude

The leader is the international companies that donate to our politicians and pay (through advertising) for our media.

Why shouldn’t they run things?
They’re paying for our leaders and bread and circus.


36 posted on 11/11/2017 1:57:05 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: MNDude

I think it’s a few billionaires determined to foist their insane narcissism on the electorate by buoying pols like McConnell. Paul Singer?


37 posted on 11/11/2017 2:00:19 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: MNDude

I don’t know but the MSM is his errand boy and Soros his banker.


38 posted on 11/11/2017 2:05:00 PM PST by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: MNDude

George Soros


39 posted on 11/11/2017 2:06:32 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: MNDude

It is a vast establishment conspiracy. Ran by committee and about as effective.


40 posted on 11/11/2017 2:07:35 PM PST by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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