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57 Things I Need You to Stop Doing to the Women You Work With
Esquire ^ | October 16, 2017 | Kaitlin Menza

Posted on 10/18/2017 3:45:40 AM PDT by C19fan

A female friend of mine went on a foreign business trip early in her career with two colleagues who were both male, married, and senior to her at the company. After dinner with a client, hours after she had retired to her room, around 1 a.m., one of her coworkers knocked on her hotel door and asked if she would come out for a drink. She declined. After another hour, around 2 a.m., the other coworker knocked on her door. When she opened it a crack, he tried to push his way into her room. She fought him off. All three still work together.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: men; women
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Seems the Good Book has a universal rule if one follows don't have to worry about some nags list of uncountable infinite rule.
1 posted on 10/18/2017 3:45:40 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

So basically don’t act like a big Hollywood democrat supporter/donor or a muslim...


2 posted on 10/18/2017 3:58:23 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: C19fan
I don't give a rat's ass what you think you "need" me to do, Kaitlin. And I didn't read the article.

STFU, Kaitlin.

3 posted on 10/18/2017 4:01:10 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: C19fan

57 items? My whole repertoire for interacting with women can’t have more than 8 or 9 items to it that covers the whole gamut of treating them or ignoring them - and I’m 65....everything is so dang complicated these days.....


4 posted on 10/18/2017 4:02:35 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: C19fan
You shouldn’t be afraid of saying or doing something because it could be misinterpreted as the wrong thing. You should be afraid of saying or doing a wrong thing and having it be interpreted in exactly the way you meant it.

Great advice, but the last line of the article sums it up perfectly.

5 posted on 10/18/2017 4:06:04 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: C19fan

Did this happen in Naples?


6 posted on 10/18/2017 4:07:55 AM PDT by Daffynition (The New PTSD: PRESIDENT-Trump Stress Disorder - The LSN didnÂ’t make Trump, so they can't break him)
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To: C19fan

How about just act like a conservative. I met my wife at work and darn if I didn’t have to pursue her every day to finally catch her in a place where I could ask her out. Over 20 something years ago.


7 posted on 10/18/2017 4:08:03 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2banana
“So basically don’t act like a big Hollywood democrat supporter/donor or a muslim...”

or Bill Clinton.

I find it tragically ironic that all these women are now very concerned about men's behavior, but when Bill Clinton was in the White House having a 22 year old intern ‘service’ him, it was ‘just sex’. The hypocrisy is immense.

8 posted on 10/18/2017 4:08:09 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: trebb

The sum of the article is to stop using what men think are cute come-=on’s to the woman.

We can see them for what they are.


9 posted on 10/18/2017 4:09:21 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: C19fan

57?

Geez. At least condense your list of demands to 50.


10 posted on 10/18/2017 4:09:35 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: C19fan

Final line of the article: And if she wants to f#@k you, she will tell you.


LOL. That almost never happens.

Aside from that, I don’t engage in any of the behaviors the author rails about. In fact, I take pains to keep things non-sexual with co-workers.

The flip side is that women DO use sex (or the hint thereof) to get what they want. Or to get help. That often includes flirting or dressing the part (in a subtle way). I’ve also heard women talking about men in pretty graphic terms (when they thought no man was in earshot). Lastly, not so long ago, women were complaining that they were not part of the “boys club”. The price of admission there is some degree of raunchiness which women will no doubt find offensive.


11 posted on 10/18/2017 4:11:17 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: C19fan

I’m glad to be retired.

It’s a minefield out there.


12 posted on 10/18/2017 4:16:03 AM PDT by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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To: NorthMountain
I don't give a rat's ass what you think you "need" me to do, Kaitlin. And I didn't read the article. STFU, Kaitlin.

LOL! Oh man, you're in trouble now. Giving a rat's ass is number 17 on the list. And of course, not telling her to STFU is way up at number 2.

I rate this post -4.5 pink pussy hats.

13 posted on 10/18/2017 4:16:28 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: C19fan

I.e., if you detect that a woman has these 57 rules, and that she has her radar on you, looking for creepy things, have as little to do with her as possible and never treat her the way you would a person you actually like. Treat her with suspicion at all times.

Yes, there are lines, boundaries. Every person is entitled to those boundaries. You ought to be able to assess them early on as you get to know them, and observe the boundaries she gives off. But if they have a mindset like the one described here, detect that there is a chip on her shoulder and avoid her like the plague she is.

I know there are people who are as cut-and-dried as this witch; and I know there are guys who are boorish. But, as a man, I hate to be held in such low contempt as this snoot has described. I avoid such people whenever possible. And if she ever asks me if I’m avoiding her, I’ll be horribly offended.


14 posted on 10/18/2017 4:16:45 AM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: C19fan

A person who has a list of 57 things on any topic isn’t doing anything useful with his or her workday.


15 posted on 10/18/2017 4:18:09 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I know what I'm about.)
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To: trebb

You know, I am actually starting to think something is wrong with ME! Apparently every other woman in the world is so irresable that men are constantly throwing themselves at them and just can’t help but make advances. I have been in the workforce with men for 30 years— nothing. Not so much as a glance. Am I that ugly and unappealing? I guess so.


16 posted on 10/18/2017 4:22:17 AM PDT by usmom
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To: Tax-chick

Gold Star post on the subject...


17 posted on 10/18/2017 4:24:36 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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>>But the fact is, it’s you. It’s men. The social ill that we can’t quite put our finger on is men.

Because no woman ever has been a sexual aggressor.
Because no woman ever has been a sexual predator (against women or men).

She’s a sexist writer.

Go flaunt your pipe dream that a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. But then wonder why NOW was founded by a bunch of lesbians and miss out on how they pushed for sexual impropriety and defended Bill Clinton when he engaged in workplace sexual affairs (some consensual many were not, all were one time considered verbotten).


18 posted on 10/18/2017 4:26:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Sirius Lee
you're in trouble now.

I'm deplorable ...

But if she asks nicely, I'll find a rat and chop it in half. She can have the tail end ...

19 posted on 10/18/2017 4:27:11 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: C19fan

“I need you to stop doing that” is something a parent or kindergarten teacher would say. I guess she thought it was cute instead of bossy. Totally annoying.


20 posted on 10/18/2017 4:27:35 AM PDT by GnuThere
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